Saline / Salt color scrub SOP

Yeah idk what u want me to say. Get the water to 30c, add in 12g of sodium bicarbonate (per gal) :man_shrugging:
Ive never boiled my water to get it that hot. And always add in ph adjustments before the salt.
Ive never worried about carbonate, because i really dont add that much.

Ohhh fyi, if i swing too high or too low, dont readujst with the opposite ph adjustment, just dump the water and restart.
Oh and i RO all my wash water and verify ph 7 before playing. Pretty much just have ten 5 gal containers that are always being swapped/filled. Ro is from well water. And tests in below 10 ppm after treated.
Less ppm in ur water leaves more room for nasties to get trapped in :call_me_hand: distilled water is not necesarry imo but if u can get unlimited amounts for stupid cheap, go for it

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Cool :sunglasses: got it :call_me_hand:

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How much and in what order do you make your filter cakes with activated alumina T5 and silica I decided to try your method I just can’t seem to find that exact recipe not sure if it matters

Thats something ur gonna have to experiment with.
A good starting point for every 1kg of oil.
Top to bottom.
250g AA, 2kg t5, 1kg silica, 100-250g of celite.
T5 snd b80 are interchangeable however t5 works a bit better imo.
AA is to dry and for red pigments.
T5 is for red and green pigments.
Silicia is for the rest.
Celite as filter aid to stop powders from falling thru.

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When you do crude do you decarb before crc or does it matter?

Yes i do, depends on what ur going for. For disty, i like decarbing b4 crc but test it urself

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Thanks for all your help first off. Second do you get a thicker emulsion layer when doing crude? Followed your tek on some first pass disty and worked awesome. Right now Im doing crude and its taking forever to separate. Any thoughts on what I may have done wrong or is this normal with crude

Probably normal for crude

Remember 1st pass disty has a lot of shit removed. There’s just more “interference” w/ crude ie longer to sep out.

Makes sense to me!

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Did u decarb and devolitize the crude b4 running thru crc?
Maybe ur crude is full of fats?
I extract pretty cold to not have to worry about that

Yes fully decarbed. -50+C etho extraction. Now Im second guessing my decarb. I did 250 for a hour. Started timer when crude was hot. Maybe it wasnt enough

Best to end decarboxylation based on look not just time :+1: keep an eye on those bubbles. Once there’s no more bubble (co2 from decarboxylation) you’re done. Ive found two hours @ 230f to be sufficient most of the time

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Thanks guys. Im figuring its a decarb issue. I just got started so its just time wasted. I will recover heptane and do a better job at the decarb. I have been doing it in large jars in the vac oven w/no vac. It will stop bubbling and I give it a few good swirls and that shit will muffin up three quarters of the 2000ml jar. After a hour or two I feel like Im going overkill. Obviously not. This sucks waiting on separation. Don’t do this​:joy:. Im not really waiting patiently Im tapping the side and shaking the bottom of the sepratory because it seems to help but this sucks. Now Im learning :joy:

Im going to do a plain ph7 and see how miserable that is before tossing. Im sure I can salvage most of it

I’m going to try this next week.

Ive made some adjustments.
I decarb the oil fully and open the vac to full blast and bring the oil up to 155c for 30 min to help devolitize.
Then dilute 2:1 heptane:decarbed crude.
If ur extracting from trim and have no inline carbon scrub, then do 2 parts b80/t5 to 1 part oil.
If u extracted from kief/hash or have an inline carbon scrub/filter then u can skip the b80/t5. (Unless u think theres heavy metals in ur oil, then u need to do the b80/t5)
Next run it thru 2 parts AA (ontop) and 1 part magsil (below the AA). For example if u had 1kg of crude, youd have 3kg of diluted crude. And use 2kg AA and 1kg of magsil.
(Powder ratios above can be reduced if ur starting with bho crude, these ratios are for the standard ethanol crude extraction)
After that do some LLE washes. Not much has changed on that part.
Finish with ph 7 and verify the water coming out of the reactor/sep funnel, is also ph 7.
Reduce and recover the heptane in the roto by going up to 155C. (Collect ur heptane b4 u go over 100c on the roto, discard anything that comes off after that, or use it for ur cold traps like i do)
Then transfer to the spd and backfill with argon if u arent planning on running it asap.
Hope this helps :call_me_hand:

Run the SPD with a hot condenser and try and let 15% of your projected yield to run into ur heads flask before flipping to mains.
About 60% is ur main fraction.
15-20% will be volatiles. And 5-10% will be left as tails.
The heads fraction will be alittle heavy and u can stack that up for another run. You usually end up getting about 20% of ur oil as heads, which 75% of it is good oil, just needs to be LLEd and distilled again.
All in all, im getting about a 75% yield from crced oil, after u account for the rerunned heads. Im hitting 90%+ d9 everytime now and nearly water clear.
I lose about 10% weight going thru the crc/magsil columns but i suspect thats majority nasties that are being trapped.

Ive consulted for 3 decently sized labs now and there all pumping out clear d9 from their wipers now, if u have any questions feel free to ask

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I have always done the scrubbing and stuff before decarbing. I was thinking i didn’t want to char any sugars or fats and make them nastier or harder to remove, but i could see how having that stuff in there could have some antioxidant properties keeping you from oxidizing, when heating. I pull vac when decarbing to lower the chance of oxidation as well as get a more thorough devol. Anyone whose decarbed bothy ways, before and after, want to chime in? Killer job and great write up @Thetetraguy

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What size reactor do you conduct your washes in?

do you decarb in a reactor?

20L reactor

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there are tools for that… see Tricks of the trade (lots of gems in there…)

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