Re-using water from dehumidifier: any definitive answer?

Hi friends!

I have a dehumidifier running beside my tent and it collects two full containers of water per day.

Researching whether or not this water is usable, leads to ALL kinds of mixed answers, from all kinds of people that may or may not know wtf they are talking about.

Some will say don’t use it, it collects heavy metals from the machine itself (doubt)

Some will say don’t use it, it collects airborne pathogens and bacteria (I’m not super aware of these being in my space! But sounds more possible)

Some will say it’s absolutely fine and no different than distilled or RO, just take same precautions, such as pH downing it and buffering it with something like tap water

So, I come here for the expert analysis :slight_smile:

Can I use this stuff or what?

It’s testing at a mere 11pm, same as my RO dispenser. I’d like to cut it to 150 PPM with tap, pH down it to 6.5, and use it in soil

Thank you!

Commercial facility I worked at years ago got fusarium really bad and tracked it back to reused water from the dehus. I would say it’s not worth the risk. Dump it outside and return it to the natural cycle.

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Faaaack… Not the answer I was hoping for. But it is appreciated.

Was gonna say it’s basically a breeding ground for bacteria and spores. Dehums running cause heat and when not they’re still moist, so this can cause build up when not set to drain properly or even with hoses that discard your waste water you’ll notice in some cases you can have build up of shit in the hose.

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There was a thread on this topic, but I can’t find it. I’ve collected the water dripping from the back of a window unit ac, and it had visible oil floating on the surface. There are various oils used in manufacturing the parts inside, and these oils will always leech a little into the waste water.

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Sigh… Man oh man… It’s extremely hard to do ANYTHING environmentally friendly when growing this stuff. Or maybe the right way to phrase it, is cannabis hates anything I want to do to it…

Can’t use tap water, gotta use RO and waste 3-5x water. Even though I live in Rural Waterloo region, surrounded by farms and greenhouses in every direction which grow all kinds of crops on what I presume is the same water supply, it’s not good enough for cannabis. I literally live in the part of Ontario that feeds the rest of Ontario, yet I can’t use the same water?

Can’t re-use dehumidifier water even though it tests at 10ppm or less, same as my RO filter, instead have to just waste it and dump it out

The worst part about it all is how the internet AND the stores and soil makers will all tell you honeyed words and bullshit - reading things like tap or RO doesn’t matter. pH doesn’t matter. PPM doesn’t matter. It’s all horse shit it seems and I’m learning the hard way :frowning:

Thank you for your reply

I tried doing research on Google before posting here and found a gigantic array of varied answers. Some experts said it’s truly an urban myth and there’s no real difference between distilled water and what the unit produces. But for each of those posts, there’s 10 others saying it’s a complete impossibility

Absolutely brutal out there

Thanks for taking the time to reply!

You can generally use it, but you need to sanitize it. Generally add 2 ppm of active chlorine, set pH 6 and pass it through a carbon filter. This is enough to allow you to use it with no problems. The water is very pure the moment it condenses, but the moist warm environment do causes biofilm to build in the machines through time, which then contaminate the water.

I have worked with many people who reuse water from condensate, never have had an issue if the above steps are carried out. If you don’t, then it’s only time before you have a root pathogen show up (fusarium most commonly).

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I worked at a place that had water shipped in by truck, and because it was an expense we were told to use the dehumidifier water. I noticed that the pH was different from the well water, so the water probably needs to be pH balanced. We also didn’t let the water sit around, it was used within 8 hours of being made, because if we didn’t the buckets the water was collecting in would overfill and cause a spill that needed to be cleaned up.

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Probably there will be many people who will disagree with me on this… but you could use this water.

Sure you can start from RO purified water and then dump all kinds of additives in it. And yes - that works. There’s evidence on both sides about whether it is MORE or LESS efficient than just growing stuff in soil and watering it like we do with all kinds of crops all over the world (like in Ontario…)

There are still plenty of people growing on the side of fucking mountains outside under the sun IN DIRT using water from local streams. And some of that flower is seriously fire.

And there’s still lots of people growing outside in rows with standard irrigation water.

I operated a very large greenhouse (40 acres, under the sun!) that pumped water from the ground into large tanks, mixed that water with fertilizers, and pumped it out to over 500,000 plants. Those plants grew big and happy and covered in trichomes. The water was not filtered or run through a membrane. But we did test the water to make sure that it’s heavy metals were low-ish (Arizona, everything seems to have heavy metals…)

And there are plenty of people that are collecting ALL THE WATER from their processes and reusing it out there. All of it. The runoff, the salt side of the RO, the stuff from the condensing units, the dehums, and even the handwashing sinks and tool washing basins. Sometimes they are running this back through filtration and then using it for the plants (because by this time its got all KINDS of stuff in it) and other times they are just using for irrigation for landscaping and things like flushing toilets.

You could go that route if you wanted.

The real question here is what are you trying to achieve. If you want to be Earth conscious and not have extra waste great! There are many ways to do this. If you don’t have access to a lot of water and want to conserve as much as you can because there’s just not enough to go around - huzzah! You can do this.

It sounds to me like you are in the first bucket there. There are so many ways to use that water. Is it possible that you have contaminates - yep. There are contaminates everywhere. Is it possible that those contaminates could cause harms - yep. But most of the issues that are listed here are things you have control over - for instance, you can control whether or not the dehum you are using has process oils in it. You can control the amount of preventative maintenance and cleaning your dehum gets - and thereby prevent A LOT of the micro-contamination that people have mentioned here.

And you can totally control how you collect, store, test, and use any of the water from your facility. Depending on your location - you can collect storm water and process it and use it as well.

There are so many options for sustainability. And yes there are costs - but there are costs with processing water through RO as well (including all that backwash and salt side waste).

The truth here is the our industry is fucking nasty and generally so focused on $$$ that it hardly ever stops to think about how it is actively destroying the planet. You know?

But you are not alone in your quest. There are many of us out there constantly looking for ways to reuse water, to regenerate our soils, to compost our plant wastes, to use the heat from our grow rooms for geothermal style heating/cooling of our facilities/parking lots/offices, to reduce our energy usage and to generate our own electricity.

So keep asking the questions and looking for solutions. I’ll keep collecting my condensate and using it to water the bushes that are required by my local municipality for utilities “screening”.

Let us know where you decide to go on this adventure. And if you want to know more about processes you can use to collect, store, treat, and use this water - let me know and I’ll work to hook you up with people in your area doing the same. <3

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I run a sealed room on perpetual since 5 years recycling all the water from dehums and ac/s … never had a problem
I run rockwool hydro in mothers and clones and coco or soil in flower…

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I can’t tell you how much I both love and appreciate this response. I’m happy to see someone at least optimistic about my curious mind, and desire to use what’s naturally available WITHOUT pushing it through a 3-5x wasteful filter, buying external sodium and dumping it back into our water tables and aquifers which are already still reeling from a contamination in the WW2 days from Agent Orange. Our water arrives via mass wells now, over a hundred of them combined I believe, along with some from the grand river and is processed at the major Mannheim treatment plant.

Why you still can’t drink the local water in Elmira (observerxtra.com)

A quick background on this, I’m sure you do not care, but it this is why it’s something I take rather seriously and am trying to make use of hard water that is already painfully hauled to our region as is. Generating 5x waste on top of it is mind numbingly frustrating and I want nothing more than to simply figure out what needs to happen so I can use my native hard water instead of RO or this dehumidifier crap.

These are the current figures I was provided right from the lead at Mannheim but still can’t figure out what in this composition is causing my plants such grief – or more importantly – how I can treat this water, or amend the media to thrive with it.

I’d truly donate and pay for this assistance, and even in advance

Sincerely appreciate your reply and gives me hope knowing someone at least understands where I’m coming from here

Thank you, Cassin

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Interesting… I don’t know if I have a chlorine source but I’d assume it’s available anywhere due to pool culture. Carbon filter, like a brita? I can buy one of those, too

Thank you for your help daniel

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Amazing!! Just like a home unit type thing? Mine’s just a standard Frigidaire unit or something of the sort. I just PPM checked it again, and it’s testing only 9 PPM at the moment. I don’t see any films or oil on top when holding it off-angle against a light, but I’m sure it can hide easier than that

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Just snapped this pic to give an visual of my issues manifesting on a top kola in flower

Should I just toss this thing? I have so much in veg right now and I will always keep troubleshooting a problem I can’t fix, without giving up. Goes back to my computer roots

I want to MAKE this work.

No way, it’s not perfect but it will smoke.

Can you give everyone some more details on your set up, what you are feeding and medium? Im sure it would really help people give you advice that is directly relevant to your situation

I grew in soil and I was always fine feeding stuff straight from the tap. I’m not in the city though, so all our water is well water. But even then, I grew with the same soil in two different spots with two different wells and I couldnt tell a difference In the plants. I’m sure other methods of growing wouldn’t be so forgiving, so take this with a grain of salt.

Also wanna note that these other guys have wayyy more knowledge than me. I was just a hobby grower/extractor. Just so you are aware lol

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Thank you so much for taking the time to reply

It’s growing in Black Swallow KIS Mix: KIS Mix Blended Soil | Black Swallow Living Soils, Brantford ON (blackswallowsoil.com)

I add worm castings and transplant into a 5 or 7 gallon fabric (this ones 5, smaller plant) and water using BluMats: Blumat Irrigation Products from Black Swallow Living Soils, Brantford ON (blackswallowsoil.com)

Nothing goes through the irrigation system except pH’ed water to 6.5 with Phosphoric Acid GH, which I was TRYING to use nothing but straight tap, but no matter what, this leaf spotting and crispyness will always show itself after a few weeks of growing perfectly without problems.

They have repeatedly told me at the time of sale (I buy direct, in person) that things like pH don’t matter, PPMs don’t matter, tap or RO, all of it can be taken care of by the soil which does seem to be true but only for a limited time until it gets miserable. And sure enough, after listening to the Cannabis Science podcast, the creator of the mix himself conveniently says “Within reason” meaning water that’s over pH 8.0 such as mine from the tap, and other oddities, are suddenly an exception to the rule

It’s incredibly frustrating, my end goal is honestly to figure out exactly what needs to happen to my native hard water source (composition posted above) in order to make it plant-friendly or it even thrive off it.

I am unsure if this means eliminating it completely. Or means diluting with RO. Or means amending with specific things to balance.

Sincerely appreciate your guys help here.

Thanks again Pupparoo

edit - I also still throw a pinch of absorbic acid according to this Aquaponics spreadsheet to the water JUST IN CASE there’s residual chloramines: Here is a water dechlorimination calculator spreadsheet for everyone. : r/aquaponics (reddit.com)

It’s a minute amount - like 0.2g per 5gal bucket of water

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requoting for truth :peace_symbol: , this is the real take

RO is a frustrating solution to swallow for me – I live in a rich farmland and mennonite area who all grow with wells from the same region or native water source I’m on … If you’re in the middle east and desalinating sea water, then I’m sure this all would be much different… just my amateur opinion - if I was a smarter individual I’d love to tackle the challenge of making a hard water source ADAPT to your needs, rather than running to the RO

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You could catch the ro runoff and reuse it. Then it wouldn’t be so wasteful.

Maybe try a few in different soil or coco mix. You may have gotten some hot dirt.

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