Powdery mildew help

@TheJew11 H2O2 is fantastic in the garden, especially in the root zone for pythium. It oxidizes excess organic matter and gives a fantastic burst of oxygen to drowning roots.

I give major props to Biosafe Systems every time I see their products mentioned. I don’t mind paying the hydro store tax to have immediate access to their products. They have saved my customer’s gardens on several occasions.

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This is great for prevention https://innovative-solutions.org/
And zerotol in a fogger would be one of the best solutions if you have issues present.

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I have some pm and some plants have a white stain on the stem? Im hoping its milk stains. I got some dutch masters zone penetrator combo im gonna try= the pm got out of that one garden and is getting into another. I also upped the furnace filter to where itll take out spores and virus.

The ONLY furnace filter than can filter spores is a hepa filter. Even the 3m allergen type filters are no good for spores.

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I think merv 14 is above hepa? I have a bunch of dust shrroms that claim hepa? They dont seem to get dirty so I get the impression they dont work great= also i have lots of dust in house with them. I got like 6 dust shroom running 24 7 and house is so dusty from one dog but the new air filter cut the dust down i think. I was wrong and hepa is stronger but those shrooms may be fake hepa.

MERV filters will filter out spores (quite a bit of them) but not completely. Technically even HEPA don’t filter them out completely, but the reduction for even a mediocre H11 class HEPA filter is 95%. The H13 class we use in our cleanrooms is 99.95% efficient. A MERV 14 is going to be around 60%. The catch is that the pressure drop is much less, so you can afford to run the air through the filter more times with the same blower power.

What this means is that for something like keeping the airborne spore count low in your grow rooms, gearing the blower up and running MERV filters make more sense. For making sure your makeup air doesn’t have any pollen or foreign spores, HEPA is worthwhile. Same thing for flow hoods/clean rooms where the air needs to be sterile regardless if it’s cleanliness on the inlet in a single pass through the filter.

MERV = Minimum efficiency reporting value
HEPA = High efficiency particulate air

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my dust shrooms claim hepa to.1 micron. i dont believe it. They are lieka 100 each but still, they barely get dirty? ive washed them and reoiled but not alot of dirt comes out.

My pm is coming from wild temp swings. thats gonna settle in summer now that the lights run at night. It would be in the mid 80s and then the ac leaks cold air in at night the past month.

Maybe a dumb idea, but what about using UVC in a cobbled together kind of flood hood thingy? Obviously building one with hepa is best, but would uvc work like that?

I got pm= too late. pm is always in the atmosphere but you just dont want the environment to make it hit your plant- i did that with wild temp swings

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So the big difference with a HEPA filter is that the bed depth is much deeper. As they get used, they actually become more “efficient” (scrub more shit out). That being said, they take more pressure to get air through as they clog. This is important though because it means that you can just use airflow to monitor filter life. MERV filters don’t work like this and will start to have reduced efficiency as they get loaded.

As far as “getting dirty”, the higher pressure drop is giving you less velocity, which is causing the large visible particles to not be drawn into the filter. So they don’t “look” dirty

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the dust masters zone is just chloramine I think, but it can cure pm. Kinda.

are you familiar with dust shrooms?

Nope. I like my mushrooms fried with garlic and shrimp

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ok its the same product as a unifilter for a motorcycle. Its an oil soaked foam thats EXTREMELY free flowing. But at the same time they claim its hepa? But why isnt it full of dust is why I dont believe it. Its like 100 bux each and reusable. its been used in autos and motorcycles for over 30 years.

They are 72 ea in 6 inch. As long as you oil them correctly they work well. I’ve installed quite a few of them lately. They have a 5 year warranty.

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I have them on each tent. I get mine of ebay cheap.

Oh like a washable air cleaner? Yeah they’re definitely not HEPA in the sense I’m speaking of. I’m talking about the kind of filter that costs $500-1200 per 2’x4’ filter and goes in a flow hood or clean room

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Cough cough
Portable/move

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