Are you saying place jar inside vessel after it’s crashed on cryo/iso for 2 days ? ? Or do a full pour in there and set vessel on dry ice and Iso… Then add butane through port to sustain and hold pressure … !?
Pour directly into the vessel and cryo. Then add butane to maintain pressure. With this make sure you pure the terp fraction out threw the top before opening the platter.
Add warm butane through the vessel port?
During this step is there still going to be a lot of solvent remaining?
2/3 to 1/2 of mother solution should be remaining when you start this part, that means some has gassed off. You just do this to get to crash,btw this is just superficial crash to gather thcA on bottom for the real crash later with sealed jar!
So yes, for this Tek at this step you should still tons tane remaining
Its already sealed…I mean like in a few weeks when I separate is it going to be like I’m pouring solvent out? Or sauce lol? Like Is all the solvent going to evap or will it stay liquid cuz of the pressure?
You will pour the terpenes off, they will be golden clear(see thru) and really runny, looks like your normal shatter when your pulling out before hardened up, but really runny and I mean really, and super loud smell. When you pour off all of your solvent you can physically see will be evaporate, that’s what makes the crystals form large, the slow evaporation of tane/terpenes
See the separation, this is not strong Tek but same method just didn’t cryo before sealing, causes smaller crystals not doing… But see how is separate, there is no tane left visable then, it wasn’t ready by far in that picture but just to show the actual separate layer
Terpines will stay a liquid yes, forever I think… After you recap the terps to let the rest the thca crystals come out the terp fraction, then the final clear golden liquid will be your terps, you’ll have to finish the steps, light purge etc…
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Ok I was worried I had to much solvent. I ran about 500 grams of flower and when I poured the solution in there was about 500 mL
Btw looks amazing!
I have no idea what your starting ml was and I never quiet keep up with like that, more of a feel thing, looks everything ,I had to teach myself which was horrible at first…Do you have a honey like consistency…or still tons tane left(sorry sometimes other threads run together) Once the tane goes it slowly separates then crystallization starts happening after that…
At the moment of seal up there was tons tane left the jar was 2/3 full of solution, after butane evap it starts separation where the magic happens
Good luck bro, hang in there… This Tek definitely required some trial and error for some of us, definitely my first time was
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@Otscc Please clarify the function(s) you achieve by priming the system with warm vapors. Ty.
3 more general questions:
Has anyone had tons of small crystals that form into a solid piece across the bottom of the jar - difficult to remove, break, and ultimately end up crushing everything?
Although I have not followed these SOP’s yet, my process to date has been similar - unfortunately at this moment all the bottoms of my jars are covered in what seems to be a single piece of crystal which I need to pulverize.
I’m dewaxing (cryo 2 hrs min - 3 micron).
1.Is this an issue of not leaving enough solvent in?
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My terp fractions are never runny, they pour off of the crystal no problem, but after sitting to purge depending on the strain the consistency turns between a pouring honey, or a thick sludge that doesn’t move. Is this just due to starting product not having a high enough terpene content?
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When your fractions are separated and ready to package, do you pour the terps back onto the crystal and just package, mix together, try to ratio it properly and add separately to jars - what’re your guys best methods here?
Is ok that they are stuck, a light rake with spoon should free… That’s the greatest thing,…
After nucelation clean up is so much easier than that shatter mother liquid mess you use to try and scrap out or fold together with PTFE
When you jar up you want a smaller taller jar to force the terms up to the top and they are never super runny like butane saturated but compared to the honey mixture used to have when you were scraping shatter out this is super runny…btw terps aren’t purged hard, they will evaporate if you do causing thicker,-15-20 bars for the allotted time
Yes once terp fraction is done it is not over you still have to pour off the turf fraction recap quite a few steps left for this particular Tek!
Hope I was able to help, I pretty much have SOP down, and yes there are many different ways to achieve the end goal of live resin sauce, is this product for your own consumption or clients/business. … Best wishes bro
Btw how long have the jars been down and you should post pics always to help
This is coming from someone with no hands on experience so take with a grain of salt. There is a Graph closer to the top of the thread detailing an area that is the right temp. for growth but to warm for nucleation so that your only growing not nucleating new sites. To cold you have growth and nucleation just right only growth, to hot you have neither I believe is what it say’s ill have to search for it when I have time.
So maybe a temp. adjustment during growth or temp cycling will help to get more single formed faceted structures. I gathered this from watching people who are trying to grow (non-cannabis) as the biggest single growth crystal on youtube like for competitions. Ill try to clear this up later.
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I blasted ran about 1500 mL thru the extractor and then I let all but 500 mL boil off. Then I poured into the diamond miner and cyro. After a couple days I put it at 85f
It’s not a honey consistency…it’s still see through yellow and mostly tane
Sounds like you may have skipped the step from cryo to sealed at 85, the leaving open for 2-4 hours at room temp to let more solution evaporate before sealing up. There may even be another 2 to 4 hours in the SOP that’s a lot time for more tane to evaporate before sealing, and if using cryo to force THCa, don’t disturb so the THCa stays on bottom.
Did you follow SOP? And let sit out for the time before Sealing? If not your solution was to saturated when you sealed up
Dang you’re right lol. I let it sit at room temp but I left it sealed…I thought I was trying to build pressure at that point. Should I take it out now and let evap for 2 hours?
And sorry but what’s SOP lol?
Lol I just figured out other day I googled, standard operating procedure(steps exactly right in right order). And it you take picture it be much easier to tell you may be ok just by time, has the solution went down any from starting point once sealed
Even when it was in cryo you wasn’t supposed to seal, just place the lid on top with no band, this let’s tane evap slowly then too, if you didn’t do that either you really may have tons tane left, pictures would really help, is it really thin light colored, or darker but kinda thin but alot thicker than beginning?
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Ya oops lol I had it sealed the whole time.
I opened and let evap for 2 hours and it is a thick gold honey now…still a little more runny than actual honey. Very nice gold color.
I sealed and put back at 85f
There is some kinda crumbs on the bottom (very small) not sure if it’s something forming or contaminates lol.
Yeah sounds like you shouldn’t have even opened it at all, sounds like you already had nucleation started, the yellow golden swirls in the dark golden honey is the start of nucleation
But it’ll be fine either way now you’re just get a perfect sugar consistency
most of the time, all the butane will evaporate on its own, with time
Well next time I know lol 
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