As much as I hate saying this. Switch from canned lighter fluid to tanks of butane. If you are going to open blast, at least use decent solvent. You can get 24~ lbs of xtane for less than $200, it’s not great, but it’s better than power 7x. And it’s much cheaper overall. Get Iso-butane if possible. It’s naturally colder and gives blonder extracts by default and grabs more terps(you’ll like it). I would say process most of your flower straight away and store it from there, not the other way around. They’ll last longer. Myself and many others can direct you on how to build a small cls for yourselve when you get there, if possible. I know the constraints of being limited to budget, that’s one of the reasons I got involved in the industry.
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U can afford one, BUILD YOUR OWN! Pressure test yourself! Clean yourself! Buy piece this week, a piece next week… That’s what I had to do!
Not to mention a lil help to better offers available out there by loving members here!
Cha ching…eBay here I come!
Btw 2 companies " claim" they have new style cans… No mystery oil needed bc they produce them…was explained mystery oil sprayed to keep from rusting from can factory to filling plant… At least that’s what I was told! Smells like rubber tires to me…
And yes extractors choice seems so much cleaner to me! The big boy tanks…
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I was literally going to put that down, but deleted it because he’s mentioned his financial complications a couple times.
@KidKannabi5 if you get to that point and want to ask questions about how to build one small for your needs. I would be happy to help you out and find what you need to fit your budget. With a small investment you can really be making extracts as good as anyone. It’s just protocol that you follow.
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My whole world has changed! So much safer! I never buy fuel anymore! And I feel like I get every last drop!
I forever let the $ scare me till someone helped me same way but even better, awesome deal!
I can’t ever dream running any other way!
I wish I would realized how much$ I would start saving!
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Exactly @KidKannabi5 can build one for extremely cheap. A small half to 1lb system can easily be built for a few hundred buck on the cheap. Shiiittt. I have an old mk3 that I built I’d part off for cheap.
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Build a 6” x 6” MK III terp.
With a 12” or 18” x 1.5” material column.
Recover passively.
Outdoors.
Leave sources of ignition elsewhere
Glacier tanks + BVV will have all the parts. Read up on how to run it.
You’ll need a vacuum pump. And ideally remotely heated circulating hot water. My first circulator was a 120V hot water heater element mounted in 2” black pipe (steel water pipe). Pumped with a small mag drive pump I pulled out of a dumpster.
The PID controller, enclosure, and 40’ of heater hose & insulation probably came to less that $200. Circulated through an insulated keggle I had lying around.
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To those saying a machine trimmer means darker extract, that’s not true at all. I’ve been running dry machine trim, trim that the bud was dried before running through a dry trimmer, for a few months now. I’ve been getting consistently gold/yellow, super stable, terpy slabs with yields ranging from 21% to 26.2%. Those returns are higher than any straight nug runs I’ve ever done. I run a CLS and use ~-40 n-butane.
If you use a wet trimmer however, it will be crap every time. From my experiences, I now tell ever grower I work with to vacuum seal the material and store it in a cool place as soon as its dry. I keep it on a deep freezer for at least two days before running too.
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have you compared hand trim to machine trim from the same grow op?
I have.
I disagree.
I’m using -40C ethanol (so not apples to apples)
machine trimming breaks open more cells.
which leads to more cell contents in the extract.
at least with cryo-ethanol
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Dry trim machine is totally different than machine trim wet as far as end product.
Like cyclopath said above, wet machine trim does indeed break open the cells in the material.
Etoh, BHO fame crappy dark extracts
Would freeze drying the starting material improve the color? Or just degrade cannabanoids? Why doesn’t freezing the material break open cells like freezing lettuce or other leafy greens?
you can denature proteins, because their 3-dimensional structure is both complex & important for their function.
you can degrade or isomerize cannabinoids, but they don’t have enough complexity to their structure to “denature”.
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/568denaturation.html
as for freezing cells rupturing them and making them leak, yep, it happens. if you’ve cured first, it’s less likely. If you’re after live resin, then getting it frozen fast, and not thawing, keeps some percentage of the cells from rupturing, and most of those ruptured cell contents out of your extraction. or so the theory goes…
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I have, the first few runs were hand trim and did not yield as high or have as nice of a color. I know the yields went up slightly because the trimmer took more Keef off, but it was significantly better to the point that his brother started using the same dry trimmer and achieved better results.
Thank you for the good advice. I appreciate it. I am planning on fabricating a CLS with my income tax return.
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Thanks you guys!
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where do you guys source your stainless parts for that cheap? I’ve been piecing together a CLS for myself lately but I’m going to end up in the 500+ range for something somewhat small (<1lb runs)
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That’s about right. You’ll end up spending the most on valves. Don’t go cheap as possible there. Your steel as long as it will pressure test, will be just dandy. Shopping between OSS, XD, BVV, and there’s a guy out there “buds hydro” he can get you steel for cheap. And actually build you a wee lil system for the price range you’re entertaining.
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very cool, yeah the valves I have on the list are the most expensive part in the build lol
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good! decent valves that don’t leak or fall apart is mission critical. I’d say bad things about the valves on some of the equipment I’ve purchased, except that the companies involved have up’ed their game at this point and I’d rather say nice things than bitch.
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Anyone here familiar using “Best Value Vacs” 1lb CLS? It is going for under a grand on amazon, but I have heard nothing about these guys either way so looking for feedback (good or bad) before dumping a grand into a small setup. As far as size that is all I need. I won’t be running more than a lb at a time.
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