Hi everyone. Tried to search on site, but got expectation that nobody touched this topic.
THC and nicotine together. It’s a classic combo for many countries, classic “spliff”, but modern trends require modern solutions.
Is it possible to combine nicotine and THC in modern ways of consumption, like zyns and vapes?
I’ve heard about new zyns that have THC in’em. Without nicotine. Got me thinking
Is it possible\good idea to add nicotine (vape nico-boosters), 1% very little - to distillate?
Also - is it possible\good idea to put some distillate or isolate onto nicotine zyns?
Chat, be nice, don’t be mean
(Also would love to hear if somebody does their own THC zyns, and know how)
There are companies like Cannadips that have been around for 10 or so years, they definitely work and are great products. But nicotine+THC combos are prohibited in every state+federally in the US, I’d guess in the EU too per TPD rules. If there is an international market that allows it I’d love to play around with it - probably with traditional spliffs.
You guys are right, there are regulations on market and stuff… But if we talk about product for myself? Beside illegal to sell and buy - is there any health risks? Can THC degrade into-something bad with nicotine? Same with zyns
I tried it myself, and played around with the ratios until I felt I had something “useable.” Ending up around 1.5% nic salts, 10% THCd-9, and carrier(varied between MCT C-8 and PG/VG). Long story short, I got scammed in Vegas from being back-out high. I have an exceptionally high tolerance. Would not repeat.
3–50 mg/mL (e.g., 3, 6, 12, 18, 20, or 50 mg/mL strengths); often as nicotine salts (e.g., with benzoic or salicylic acid) for higher concentrations and smoother inhalation, though free base is used in lower-strength options.
Active ingredient; salts are more common in modern pod-style vape pens for reduced throat hit at high doses, while free base suits sub-ohm devices. Actual levels can vary 45–131% from labeled values due to manufacturing inconsistencies.
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Propylene Glycol (PG)
20–80% of base (often ~50% in a 50:50 PG/VG mix)
Solvent and humectant; carries flavor and nicotine; provides throat hit.
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Vegetable Glycerin (VG)
20–80% of base (often ~50% in a 50:50 mix; up to 100% in some high-VG formulas)
Thickener for vapor production; smoother on throat but less flavor carrier. Ratios range from pure PG to pure VG, with 1:1 being most common.
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Flavorings
5–20% (food-grade extracts, such as fruit, tobacco, or menthol)
Enhances taste; can include natural or artificial compounds.
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Other Additives
Trace amounts (e.g., water <5%, pH adjusters, or preservatives)
Stabilize the solution; some may introduce contaminants like heavy metals or aldehydes upon heating.
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This composition allows for controlled delivery, with nicotine partitioning into the vapor for inhalation. Nicotine salts dominate in cartridges for their pH-neutral profile (smoother than free base’s higher pH), enabling higher strengths without irritation, especially in low-wattage pens. Always check product labels, as regulations (e.g., FDA or TPD limits) cap strengths in many regions.
when preparing transdermal patches, apparently the free base is necessary for nicotine and the pH is buffered accordingly, Here again, the the high side for pH..8.5 to keep CBD and THC in unionized form as well. That is if a mixture of cannabinoid and nicotine is preferred.
One might think the free base form is necessary of a vape cart of nicotine. But it turns out best to use salt preparations with counter acids such as salicylic .. Certainly THCA could be substituted for a salicylic acid in such a preparation. Apparently it is all about the aerosol production. However, there might be some trickery similar temp values as in “liquid diamond “ carts…where THCA has to decarb as you make the aerosol. It might be just as easy to prepare a normal nicotine cart solution and adid either CBD or THC but a buffer might be nice to prevent the phenol from ionizing to the phenolate. The pH of 7.5 to 8.5 would do as the amine can be protonated as noted above. No matter what pH the aerosol , after deposit in lower airway of lungs, the dominate buffer in the emulsion of the bronchial exchange area will sort out the exact nature of the ionic distribution for exchange and transport of the nicotine.
One factor most people are not considering is mass transfer from nicotine devices vs cannabis devices. You CAN put nicotine salt blends in a cannabis oil vape, and it will work perfectly fine. Cannabis devices typically have 1g volume with 1-5mg/puff(depending on device, oil, power, etc.) . Nicotine salt devices can easily have 10-20mg/puff of solution(mg of nicotine vary on concentration). You inhale 10x the mass, so making it more concentrated will floor you.
In relation to CBD, I have not tried that and it could be interesting. Formulations can be tricky though.
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