Moving lots of (non-extracted) biomass around


#1

So there are a few threads about moving spent/extracted biomass around. I’ve got most of that portion figured out now.

But I’ve recently been pondering less labour intensive ways of getting it into the extractor in the first place.

I’m thinking about something like this. Or possibly this.

I’m shooting for something that will move around 100lb / 100 gallons / ~14 cuft per minute.

Does anyone here have any experience with this kind of system? Or something better that I haven’t thought of?


#2

You’re too modest…I’m just gonna say that in my experience, if you haven’t thought of it, chances are very few others have.

in this case, those others are probably so deep in hemp right now…

Both those solutions looks viable to me. given the number of those bags I’ve got lined up waiting for me to get that Bock 755 online, the bag based solution looks quite attractive to me.


#3

Are you trying to move the biomass dry? In most of my facilities we move it in a slurry with pumps


Removing Residual Ethanol
#4

@future what size pipes/hoses?

one still needs to get the biomass into a hopper and into that slurry. how are you achieving that?


#5

I can understand doing this with the spent biomass but by the time it’s in a slurry isn’t it already in the process of a solid liquid extraction?


#6

I suspect that is the point :slight_smile:


#7

Yup I’m trying to move it dry into the extractor as part of a reasonably continuous process. Once it’s in there it’s easy enough to pump around.


#8

It’s dry in the super sacks, it gets fork lifted above the hammermill hopper, flip and dump, the output from the mill gets mixed with ethanol and pumped to the next process.

4" piping for the slurry on the 2 I’ve worked on that were doing it this way.

Why move it dry when you can pump it wet?


#9

The unhelpful but accurate answer is that my process requires it - I’m going to be doing things a little bit differently with my system than the rest of the industry is currently doing.

I plan on spending the holidays writing patents so hopefully they’ll be filed soon and I’ll be able to be less opaque in the new year.


#10

Have you looked at something like this https://cablevey.com/cable-conveyors/


#11

Watch a few episodes of how it’s made or something similar I always get a ton of ideas watching how common items are made industrially.

I know typically farmers dealing with volume will use conveyor systems setup for the item (boxed or with dividers or textured) and then adjust the height of the steps so that it works out. I know bags can be hooked and then moved around as well in a similar sense through a processing plant from room to room.


#12

Yup, I’m actually looking at something not incredibly dissimilar to that for phase 2 of our facility when we build out at least the next 6 extraction rooms. Probably going to use a vacuum system but the same concept applies.

I just don’t have the funds to shell out for the full system right away, and it’s also more expensive than you’d think and difficult from a regulatory perspective because it has to be engineered to be within our “secured storage” area - all cannabis that isn’t in someone’s hands or in a room with an authorized person needs to be under lock and key.

It’s easier from a regulatory perspective to make pharmaceutical cocaine or ketamine than it is to work with cannabis. Go Canada.

Seems like the flexible conveyors like above are one of the best bets for now for each extractor until I get the whole facility dialed in.


#13

how much milling do you require to have it move as a slurry? is it like a distillery or beer mash consistency. any increase in chlorophyll pickup due to reduction in bud size?