Bad ass,I thought might be one those questions I should have known the answer to, but I was also afraid was some kinda trick questions… I’m not the brightest knife in the drawer, but none the less, I’m knife! Lol
But yeah I definitely know all about trapped solvent, the crystals I grow to small to have that problem, and if it does I would never know. But right on got to be a lot better for you
Cyclopath is getting it, it’s all about shelf appeal. If you can put a big old clear crystal on a dispensary/rec store shelf the people are going to go wild for it, but using LPG or any petroleum derived solvent and in some states even alcohols you are going to have to break it up and purge it before you sell it.
@StoneD any luck with your True Terps test?
Haven’t got around to trying, they just came in today, I’m imagining it can’t get to much bigger than sugar but I could be wrong,
they definitely on point though, taste exactly perfect, someone on here told me to make vape juice out of it, I tried, incredibly way way way way too much flavor, burnt my throat with flavor, gonna try there viscosity with maybe one drop the terps, but my terps already are really good… So maybe just the tasteless terps to get it right, but they super expensive, I could see changing the way some nasty strain would be really easy though, one drop per gram and it taste exactly like the strain,I got sfv og bc I had OC pharm vape pen still here, taste exactly same. But yeah would make great frankensauce
Yea that stuff is tough to powder up, looks like gravel after you’ve smashed it up lol
I put some on some solid bho and it sugared like crazy after couple days but wasn’t shatter to begin with, more snap and pull
if we are agreed that sugar = itty bitty crystals then that may count as a win.
although getting BHO to “sugar” after a couple of days isn’t going to impress most folks.
given how expensive those terps probably were, I don’t really recommend you add more and try again, but that would be the logical next step for anyone wanting to pursue this.
@Akoyeh: we need to try this. with limonene. assuming we have any shatter left on site.
Tell me exactly what you want me to do, I’ll pull it off but maybe scaled down,
Give me an experiment to try… I’m not as smart as yall… redissolve it after doing what exactly, I’ll get it done for sure…
I only did this trying to help the bho, getting back wet is what I really think helped it, bc terpenes are a hydrocarbon right? I may be wrong on that
Did you jar up the BHO you sprinkled terps on?
Making Diamonds is simply crystallization out of an appropriate solvent (or solvent mixture). If following Only The Strong sauce tek that solvent mixture is mostly terpenes by the time things really start happening.
I believe you could do better than “sugared like crazy” if you added approx twice the solvent you added last time, then jarred and waited.
Yes, terpenes qualify has hydrocarbons, being built of only hydrogen and carbon atoms (no Oregon: CO2 is not a hydrocarbon). terpenoids contain atoms other than H & C.
yes, getting the extract “wet” is what allows the THCa molecules to move around and find their buddies (and crystallize). Too much solvent, and there isn’t enough motivation to “buddy up”. Too little solvent, and the molecules can’t move freely, so no or only tiny crystals.
yes, that “twice as much as last time” is a wild guess. I don’t know what you did, what your starting material looked like, or what sort of sugar you’re looking at. I don’t even know if you jarred it. 
If you didn’t, then you may not need to add more solvent, just slow the evaporation down (by jarring).
From the reading I’ve done, starting with sugared material might be problematic. in that you have essentially seeded the reaction. so you might just get sugar again unless you are meticulous about dissolving every last bit. filtering it might help, but I’m not sure you have the tooling for that (syringe filter would be my suggstion).
Residual hexanes
was wondering if one could dissolve distillate to make crystals
If you have cbd, then yes. But why dissolve? It can spontaneously recyryatlize?
If you have thc, short answer no.
You will have to make the thc back into thca, then you can make crystals. That’s the hardest route to take. Best way is to extract thca rich plant material and use it for your work up.
Are people on here seeing THC-a crystals failing for residual solvents, or maybe a better question is what are residual solvents testing at in this category of product? Does this warrant using an alternative method?
What about performing BHO extraction, purging off the majority (under 500-1000ppm) of the butane and agitating during purging to reduce sugaring (not sure if that physical action will result in non-sugaring?) and then adding d-limonene to create a solution of oleo w/ a little residual bho and a majority of d-limonene? Then take that solution, jar it and let it set. Thoughts?
Limo seems to produce less stable or less consistent crystals than true terpenes viscosity… my carts crash so hard outta that stuff it is what led me try limonene. I think we need to try more than one terpene to identify the preferred solvent here.
Do you know what terpene the viscosity extract is cause I’d prefer to not pay out the ass for true terpenes on a proof of concept run? I bought some d-limo. What else should I try, any suggestions?
Ur carts crash out viscosity? Are u using distilates or winterized material? If so hmmm if not there u go
Limonene works, but slower & less stable crystals. I have no idea what’s in viscosity, good product though, wish I did. Note that squalene was mentioned elsewhere on this site as a candidate, I have no other information.
Regarding thca crystallization in viscosity, very pure/fresh cryoeth extract does it every time. Don’t even have to try, it’s overnight super stable crystals.
Yeah but that’s because you’re using viscosity not the way it was meant to be used read the label for winterize material and distilates only, pretty sure what’s going on is that you’re not heating it up good enough when breaking it down, you have to add the terps back at the end for flavor.
Also if you ever get any separation it’s the fats wax lipids from not using winterize material
That’s what’s going on for sure
I find everything out the hard way, already been through all that just trying to look out, when using the way it’s meant to be it works wonders
Here, it has nothing to do with lipids. Ever measure the temp during the “heating it up good enough”? IME If they don’t hit around decarb temps, not good enough. At that point I suspect thc cosolvents your thca with other present terps. it’s more than any winterized “extract” as specified, winterized CO2, ie already decarbed, or distillate, also of course decarbed. THCa isn’t involved in the bottle directions.
Correct…decarbbed it’s thc not thca
U add terps back at the end…
I’m just saying…i was RUNNING into same problem…i winterized said same material…then decarbed under vac and added my terps…i some I did 3 months ago w some in bottom…still liquid…im about to go check again…
Also I even used washed stone from OTSS tek…washed in same b.funnell but w fast paper to go fast…and then took washed stones crushed and decarbed under vac…stayed clear liquid , added terps and loaded …stayed clear for the short time I had it😊
Ok also , w ur stuff crystallizing on u…i thought hard about it…
Ur not decarbbing enough…once ALL ur thcA has been Converted to thc…then and only then it can’t crystallize back…u may be hitting temps but not for long enough…
And I spoke to the specialists about viscosity several times…u can’t use without decarbbing and if u don’t winterize it seperates…its not an instant diluent that’s doing God knows what to the structure of the cells…u have to change them urself…
And that’s why they add terps back last…bc u cooked all the goodies out…
Live sauce meant to dab it up!!!
Good luck buddy…i was in search for the clear golden yellow carts that was perfect hit no matter if u hit half sec or 6 secs…and had wonderful taste and throat bite everytime…as close to dispensary quality as possible…good luck again
