why would you reX live resin carts at all?
You keep saying that.
It’s clearly not what you are talking about, but those of us just looking at the subject of the original post might disagree…
Certainly no mention of adding HTE up there…
Are they the same? No.
Is one better than the other? Quite possibly. Depending on specifics of implementation & preferences of the person answering the question.
distillate can be made from the solvent used to clean your dishes. In traditional labs, making distillate from the solvent drained from the ultrasonic baths is not unheard of (hence: “hot dog water”).
THCA isolate requires decently made crude from reasonably fresh biomass. But you can absolutely spin the shit out of poop soup…
I think decarbed isolate (or even “isolish”) is “better” than distillate because it’s easier and faster. The fact that it tastes great and gives equal or better potency than our competitors are bonuses imo.
This is what relatively high purity THCa looks like after recovering ethanol and pouring in a jar, might have some trace solvent still
That’s a hell of an ethanol extract.
Those are beautiful for being ethanol extracted .
If you don’t mind me asking, what equipment are you running those from?
I have a cryo ethanol extraction lab and I thought I’m limited to crude - distillate. I’d love to be able to add diamonds and hte etc…
They weren’t extracted with ethanol, just some post processing experiments
You ever try antisolvent crash on it since it is in ethanol?
I haven’t heard of anyone making “liquid diamonds” unless it’s going in a cart. Hence, me talking about mixing in HTE.
if we are just talking about “is decarb’ed 99% THCa more potent than distillate?” then there’s no debate lol. Idk how this thread has 168 posts if that’s all we are talking about. I thought that was a given. Maybe not…
Once upon a time I died on this hill.
Here’s my take on it now.
99.99% pure d9-THC from any source or process is identical. Pure d9-THC is a flavorless, odorless compound. These are facts.
Less than pure d9-THC will, at some percentage that holds true across the board, begin to vary in taste. Undesired tastes can seem very mild, yet still greatly overpower even large doses of high quality HTE, irregardless of the process being used to produce it. Even residual desirable flavors can greatly impact the propensity for products to ultimately taste very similar even when treated with different HTEs or alternative flavorings.
TLDR: Not all liquid diamonds are created equal. Isolate over distillate is kind of irrelevant and the old addage still applies… garbage in, garbage out.
Can you tell me what temp it was that you “recovered” alcohol…and then you “poured” the remains into that jar…
So I am assuming you mean to say you think that is “liquid state” THCA crystal? My experience with concentrates of THCA evaporated from 95%ethanol solutions transition into amorphous solids slowly.
I have never seen an ethanol-wet” white solid appear excepting concentrated “3-state water, EtOH , THCA” aka, louche from solutions with pH neutral or less. So I think the work you show is interesting, well done, etc…I am just not familiar with what “state” is in that jar. If you put a hard vacuum on that material…like freeze- dried, for 24 hrs…do you get a white crystal that can be powdered?
Has this material previously been mixed with some sort of CRC material?
I’d like to hear more…”ethanol wet white crystals”, perhaps R-NH3 salts?
when you say : “is decarb’ed 99% THCa more potent than distillate?”
Will you please give us a run down on your concept of “decarbing” THCA…like yield and by product composition.
And please define concept of “more potent”?
So if you decarb your THCA first and then smoke it , is it better than hitting THCA up in a vape pipe? (Decarbing on the fly so to speak)
We have to include the ROSIN group here, because we a have a situation where less purity makes for higher quality product.
Yes it melts before it decarbs. Ultra deep vacuum distillation can even have 1-2% thca left in it. D9 really fucks up the ability for thca to crystallized. Seems like 1% d9 locks up like 7% thca from crystallization so even at 7% d9 the material doesn’t really want to crystallize any more as it locks up like half of the thca. Not sure why this happens or if I am describing what I notice in the correct terms.
Thats bc melted 99% thca to thc isnt distilate at all…disty entails getting all the minors with it not just thc
I prefer a saugar that taste good w the hte added back and touch of disty for entourage effect
Rosin is a “higher quality product” in many aspects but anecdotally, myself and many others I know do not get nearly as strong of an effect from rosin. I call it diet dabs because the high is just so much more mellow than for example a badder from the same strain. Even accounting for potency by smoking more the high off rosin is light and fleeting. I do not notice the same issue if I smoke the hash going into the rosin. No answer for it scientifically but the sentiment is one I’m not alone in.
Almost like the liquid d9 acts as a way to saturate THCA in its liquid form? Taking a stab at trying to describe.
I’m often curious about dabs in bongs/vapes that have gone from solid/liquid to gas (smoke) to back to solid/liquid and still have THCA not decarbed.
Let me try to give you something to think about…
If you have 100 mg of say 90% THC and you have 100 mg of let’s say 99.99% THCA diamonds, then as long as the 10% “other than” in the THC does not block any of your receptors, then you are actually smoking more active ingredient by weight with the distillate that what you are with the diamonds! ![]()
Actually, one has to ask:
Which mixture produces the aerosol with the greatest concentration of THC per inhalation volume element for a particular vaping procedure is what we are concerned with.
It is the THC in the aerosol that counts. There are actually more steps involved in Aveoli absorption and transmembrane transport through capillary walls etc…but we can think of aerosol production by vaping procedure as the primary process coupled with inhalation as the mechanism that controls mass transfer to the Aveoli. You have to understand that the aerosol components “rain out”in the lower lung at 37 C.
Dude ! You are next level ![]()
But yeah still a sh?;& load of things we should figure out
In this conversation, More potent = higher % of D9.
This was just a response to the replies I was getting… That 99.9% THCa, decarbed, will obviously be more potent than distillate. As long as it’s not heated TOO much during decarb, it should yield about 87% by weight and be around 99% D9 THC. Which is gonna be more potent than pretty much any distillate, since distillate will contain at least some minors.
I’d prefer just smoking the THCa. This is why I assumed we were talking about carts… Idk why you would decarb THCa if it isn’t going into carts.
You’re right. But apparently this whole thread is just about whether or not 99.9% THCa (post-decarb) is more potent (D9%) or is distillate more potent? Not about the final product made with these inputs.
My whole argument was that a similar quality product can be made with distillate (after mixing with HTE), but I guess everyone else was just referring to the decarb’ed THCa vs. Distillate, with nothing added. In which case, they are right. The decarb’ed THCa will be more potent, assuming it is 99% THCa and decarb’ed under the right parameters.
Why do you want to inhale the co2 being produced from dabbing the thca? Also the terps homogenize into thc much better then thca. So your dab is consistent
