Agreed, that is wierd. So much of this is process and material dependent as well. How are you extracting, how fast are you ReXing, how are you dewaxing your crude (methanol, ethanol, membranes?) Pentane or butane ReX?
ReXing will get you at least 90% the first time (closer to 95%) and a second one you will be in the 99% and above. Distillate you are also intrinsically limited by other cannabinoids as well. If you got 6% CBG, then 94% is your theoretical max THC for distillate, not diamonds.
The error bars on processes and they overlap for sure, but their averages are not though.
Exactly. And I’m guessing most people making live resin carts on any kind of scale are not reXing twice. But I also doubt most people are pulling 95%+ disty so I guess when we are talking in generalities, the “liquid diamonds” may have a slight edge when it comes to purity, but I don’t think it is as huge of a difference as people make it out to be.
90% THC disty with HTE compared to 92% THCa diamonds, decarbed and mixed with HTE… I think a lot of people wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference in a blind test, honestly. Idk, maybe I’m wrong.
We do it the liquid diamond way ourselves, but honestly that’s only because of the stigma that has been created around “hot dog water” distillate. If people didn’t fanboy over the liquid diamonds, I would have no issue mixing the HTE with some 90%+ distillate. I personally think marketing has a lot to do with it.
It doesn’t open up the receptor. It inhibits FAAH, fatty acid amide hydroxylase, which is the enzyme that breaks down endocannabinoids and cannabinoids in the body.
99% thca is easily achievable on a single crystallization in just a few hours from pour off by either centrifugation or a solvent wash. The process is also doable with any input material high in thca. 98% d9 disty is only possible in material absent of minor cannabinoids. This is exceptionally rare. I put a lot of value in being able to identify everything in the smokable product I’m offering. Very little distillate fits that description but I can get any high thca sugar to 99% purity quickly and easily.
I’ve never seen spun sugar test below 98% thca from a lab that does 0 potency inflation.
I have definitely seen spun material under 98%. And definitely seen disty 98%+. Also, what’s wrong with minors?? I prefer other cannabinoids in my oil, not just one… I wouldn’t call those “undesirables.”
I’m not saying liquid diamonds CANT be more pure than disty. Of course it can. But, the opposite can be true as well.
If you take the best HTE + Disty carts vs the best liquid diamonds + HTE carts, then yeah, I’m with you. The liquid diamond one will be more pure.
But again, I am just speaking in generalities, or averages. If you go the extra mile to ensure 99% THCa before decarb, kudos to you. Nice work. But we both know that most processors out there are not doing that. Hell, half the people are just leaving the terps in there during decarb. No fuge, no ReX, not even a pour off…
I’m not trying to say you guys are wrong for saying liquid diamond method can be more pure. You’re 100% right. I guess my point is just because someone calls it “liquid diamonds” doesn’t make it better, or more pure. It’s dependent on the process. Most of the live resin carts out there are not made from 99% THCa, and disty+HTE carts can make a product that’s just as pure, or even more pure in some cases.
I guess what I am saying is, either method is capable of making a very pure product. Which is why I never understand the hate on distillate, but the worship of decarb’ed THCa lol.
Fwiw, we also do it the liquid diamond way… But I have made them the disty way in the past as well… and when the disty is high potency and doesn’t have that disty taste… there aint much difference.
are the disty carts mixed with HTE or botanical terps though?
Most of the added cost is in the actual cannabis terps.
to be clear, I am not comparing liquid diamond carts to disty+botanical terps… liquid diamond carts shit on those…
the disty carts I am talking about have real terps in them. they just use THC distillate instead of decarb’ed THCa to mix with the HTE
First of all, if you can reach 98% D9 THC by process of distillation you the man and I’d like to find out how you doing that?
The difference alone between say 90% and 95% would be indistinguishable seeing as every time you Puff into your lungs it’s a different measurement you inhale regardless of what’s in it. What makes the difference is what impurities are there and some of them are desirable some of them are not some of them have no taste some of them have a bad taste and some of them have a good taste some of them will enhance your experience some of them will detract from it.
And so if you start from a product that is fairly pure then you get to choose more carefully what else goes in there and thus you get to choose more carefully the final user experience. Keep in mind it doesn’t necessarily mean you will be able to do better than nature does, but you will have more control.
Adequate filtration/post-processing (biggest one), slow temp ramping, and more than 1 pass. I don’t think I am doing anything out of the ordinary. Not saying I pull 98%+ every time, or even half the time, but it is possible.
But I think we are saying the same thing, brother. The minuscule (1-5%) difference in potencies between liquid diamonds and high potency distillate is almost negligible, when everything else is the same (terp profile and concentration).
That’s why I don’t understand when people are totally turned off by a cart with disty in it (even if its 95%+) but have hard-ons for 90-95% THCa that was decarbed… They aren’t that different.
that’s another good point. the labs in this industry are so unreliable.
I’ve never come across a lab who advertises their results being inaccurate or inflated…
so yeah, who is to say the test results of my 98%+ or someone else’s 99% THCa is completely accurate? Of course, we all think the labs we use are accurate (except in Missouri lol), especially when they report numbers we like to see… so that’s another pretty big variable in this whole discussion.
Depends what market you’re talking about. In Canada, people still filter by “high THC” when buying vapes. So the liquid diamond carts get promoted to the top of their search results.
wouldn’t “high THC” filter out the liquid diamond carts? Bc of the HTE being mixed back in? or are they selling liquid diamond carts without HTE mixed back in?? or liquid diamonds with botanical terps??
any good live resin carts I have ever had are not like super high THC… they’re high in terps.
