Labs Stripping Cannabinoids during Remediation?

Not trying to argue but you are evaporating whatever you have in your boiling flask. So yes they do just disappear into thin air and then reappear as they condense. Maybe you can post a picture of a cannabinoid as a vapor before it gets condensed.

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No tape, lids loose on arrival - see photos. We document any damage on arrival just for occasions like this. You can also see that whatever was marked on lids is illegible because of the oil covering it. I was told by the guy you hired to mix em so I did. Not gonna comment on this further - if I made a mistake Iā€™ll own it, but this oneā€™s on you.

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jesus, vaporizing and recondensing is not equal to disappearing.

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Also theres something called gcms, where you shine light through the cannabinoids while they are gaseous

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Thanks for giving him back distillate he can actual formulate with. Starting material was averaging 40% CBD. Great job as always!!

I heard Uline sells some great tamper proof buckets that are meant for shipping liquids relatively cheap in comparison to its contents ; )

Please do not accuse people of stealing when they are trying to dig you out of a hole and provide you an honest service!! SEAN

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Anyway I dont mean to argue either, since youā€™ve proved my point

Due to the attention that this post has received, I take responsibility for deciding to handle this publicly, and I apologize. That being said, my only intention was to outsource and see if this was a common issue since I am fairly new to this industry. I care deeply about my company, as I am sure you do yours. I have attempted to reach out to you, and another affiliate, multiple times over the phone to discuss and resolve this matter, with no resolution. Please contact me during business hours tomorrow, and I look forward to your call.

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Thank you for keeping this civil.

I agree that such a small % of minor cannabinoids can be lost in the standard deviation of your analytics, something to factor.

I also suggest you ship in better containersā€¦

And technically @mythirdeye_1 on of the definitions of disappear is to vanish from sight lol

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For reverse phase C18* chromatography, more polars go first so CBDā€”>CBGā€”>THC for those three.

Most of the minors come with the CBD and CBG spike.

Our gradient produced runs with water solubles that gave a signal eluting first. This contained many of the pesticides weā€™ve tested for and other unidentified compounds.

Then the CBD Elutes as a sharp spike, once the spike crests however, absorbance would drop about half then the CBG fraction would elute as a flat plateau hump still on the main Cbd spike. These fractions are all combined

After the hump completely dropped to baseline for .2-.5 CV before our gradient adjusted and the THC fraction eluted as a single defined spike(fractioned to its own separate ā€œWasteā€ for destruction for regulatory compliance.)

The CBD and CBG fractions being much closer and Thc being less polar enough to easily push as far away as possible; itā€™s unlikely to have CBG go to the Thc fractions without it contaminating your Cbd fractions. On the flip side if one was to cut it to pick up minors with Thc, Final Product Yield would be greatly reduced.

You can easily separate the CBD/CBG fractions but requires lower pore size media(much more expensive) then just Thc removal as well as finer gradients and much larger solvent volumes

*For those unfamiliar, Reverse Phase C18 is long chained Carbon molecules(18 carbons thus C18) imbedded into silica to give a nonpolar stationary phase.

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I guess heā€™s got me beat on the definition of disappear. All I know i know is matter doesnt just ā€œnot appearā€ or get lost??? To say that compounds disappear during distillation is hmm at most polite ignorant. If thc as a liquid boils into a ā€œvaporā€ and bahahaha disappears, only to bahahaha ā€œreappearā€ as a liquidā€¦ fuck that semantics

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Again gcmsā€¦ we can see the vapor. Nothing ā€œdisappearā€

If my definition of disappears is wrong, thnx for correction. Matter it self doesnt just disappear.

I have some material out for remediation with @ARSNLabs right now. So far they have been professional and very easy to get in contact with. Iā€™ll post more about my experience on this thread once I receive the material back, and Iā€™ll include COA to show before and after. I highly doubt that theyā€™re stealing cannabinoids lol.

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We use a Gilson CPC for remediation, I canā€™t speak for other systems, but the with the Gilson CBC co-elutes with THC and ends up in the THC fraction.

We havenā€™t seen any noticeable decrease in any of the other minors though.

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Is it really CBC or is it d10 like many labs mistake CBC for? If so, it would make sense that it elutes similar to d9

@canatech82

COA from @ARSNLabs. My minors are still there, albeit lower concentration than the starting material, but ya know, testing variance and all that, so understandable.

They didnā€™t provide test results for residual solvents because their GC is down at the moment, but Will seemed confident that it wouldnā€™t be an issue based on previous data for their procedureā€¦ we will see what our 3rd party lab reports for that. Definitely a little anxious about the residuals based on prior experience with remediation labs.

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Will @ARSNLabs is nothing short of a standup, honest and straightforward professional. I have personally visited his facility and find it to be a clean, professional environment. His employees all seem very happy to work with him. In addition to our interactions, everyone Iā€™ve referred to him has nothing but good things to report back to me.

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Welcome. This is a website/forum where your accountable for the business you conduct in this crazy industry , if someone had a shit experience with your business thatā€™s 100% something that will be discussed. Maybe make things more clear on your end about the whole procedure and expected outcome.

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Iā€™m not sure, getting it separated back out from the THC fraction isnā€™t viable for us, so we havenā€™t investigated whether itā€™s really CBC or not.

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Pretty sure they just gave you iso. Let me know if you need any help :v: