There is a Luna in our lab that will be commissioned soon, I am definitely interested in increasing the solvent capacity, changing the sieve orientation and adding the ability to push with N2!
@cyclopath, may I ask what did you do to the IO to overcome the solvent capacity issue ?
Soak. For now.
Yeah, N2 is the bit I’d like next. Rumor has it there is at least one group playing that game already. I’d like to reuse the N2, and that requires a couple more parts (additional pressure vessel).
So we ARE turning on the Luna? Damn. I think we’ll need to do our best to have a cyclopath on hand when we get around to that.
For high yielding trim (anything over 15%) we had to do 4 full runs with 10 min soaks to get the full yield. Once we switched to top fill we could push both solvent tanks through the column and would end up being able to do just that one run. This stopped us from using most the automation and really just used the panel to manually run the machine.
Was still nice to be able to hit vac on the panel and the system vac it self down.
My biggest issue was if I was not around to fix the problem it was almost impossible for s regular tech to figure it out. (supposedly most of the issues we had are fixed).
The nicest part about the Luna is how the top of the material column opens and closes. Nothing in the market that’s as easy as it.
That is actually pretty easy to implement. You need an additional pressure vessel between your input solvent and the automagic “fill” port. You can then feed vapor into the system and it will condense as much as it needs then shut off the fill.
Talk to Luna about it.
Edit: 1k word substitutes to go with post below…
Get another jacketed solvent tank that will fit 100lbs of solvent safely. Liquid fill into it from the DOT tank and use the same heater that runs recovery on the luna to heat the solvent tank, put a few valves on the water lines so you can isolate heat to the external tank then ask luna to kick the heater on while “external fill” is in process, this will heat the external tank and distill the gas automatically, and when the fill is complete the heat will shut off.
Easy peasy gas distills easy.
What changes would you mkae if Luna hired you tomorrow to upgrade the machine?
Is anyone running Luna’s ethanol system the elara ?
Whenever this occurs, I’ll be there provided I am aware of the general timeframe, if there is one?
I’ve never seen it run, but it looks great and compact. I would have advocated for spray extraction alongside washing machine tech. It really comes in handy for finely milled material that would otherwise put a heavy load on filtration. It can also run with a fraction of the ethanol so having multiple doesn’t become an ethanol storage problem if you have enough recovery capabilities. Not to mention, the reduced chilling demand needed for a single run.
As someone who sells automated ethanol systems, I think bag loading and unloading should be replaced by semi/continuous hopper-fed systems.
I did suggest they hire me before setting their centrifuge free without spray wash capabilities…
hydrocarbon centrifuge?
Heptane has certainly been done.
…I was just agreeing with @highestzen
My favorite centrifuge is one that incorporates heptane, oil, ethanol, and water all at the same time.
are you referring to the kromaton?
No. I’ve only used a Gilson CPC which is awesome, but I’m referring to disc stacks for LLE. I like industrial equipment. When i checked out the 5L Gilson CPC in Kentucky i was impressed, but remediating thc from hemp crude wasn’t worth the squeeze. I’d love to see what it can do for d8 remediation.
I’ve been running a Luna for a while now and worked with one of the owners on the machine testing some stuff. i’ve done some pretty wild stuff with it. once i filled the distillation column with 1500g of crude, used a custom lid with a dip tube that went all the way down to the spout, filled the reactor with solvent, drained it into the distillation column, then used that dip tube to transfer all of the solvent now mixed with the crude back into the reactor, then re-ran that through a fresh crc column to clean it up. i even did a run with no chillers on as a test.
i couldnt be a bigger luna fanboy tbh.
by far my favorite machine in my 14 years of extracting.
There is a much easier way to do that that doesnt require a different lid or dip tube and you will get every last drop out of the reactor.
Just put a compression fitting on your pour spout and then pull vacuum on the reactor and suck it in with a hose.
Redissolve can be done much faster by doing a hot vapor loop on the distillation column and blowing the vapor up the pour spout while sucking with the pump from the top of the distillation column.
Adding a 3 way valve on the reactor will make this doable without any line being disconnected.
And a three way valve at the bottom of the reactor.
This is where your hot vapor can be had.
Mods above allow hot vapor into distillation or reactor.
This one lets you get pushy at your CRC
Rocket surgery 101
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Nice, I appreciate the info!
Luckily nowadays I don’t have to do that. That was around 3 years ago at a different company than I am at now. If I run dirt product now it just gets put to the side and eventually gets wasted tbh, although I did recently show my CEO and GM the centrifuge “diamond” tech so hopefully I can start spinning that shit into thca for liquid diamond carts lol
