Yup and that’s when Cali hops back in and rinse and repeat
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You already know lol
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Maybe that’s the case in Oregon but when I left Cali (a month ago) we were selling 2-5 pounds at a time of cured hash rosin from fresh indoor trim at $8 per gram. With the Axis separator we had enough throughput and with cured trim we had enough yield to make 100%+ NET margins
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My best guestimate is that the rebound in price will either be slower/not go as high/ or may never happen
And if the rebound happens it will be when financial conditions become easier ( lower interest rates and inflation dying).
Oklahoma is a new variable that hasn’t existed in a prior price depression. Oklahoma and high inflation (diminished customer disposable funds and viable alternatives (good enough deps) may be the straw that broke the camel’s back and made the game truly a commodity business . If Oklahoma and the fed broke the price point forever the only ones that will be able to fetch above commodity pricing are brands Dr pepper $2.50 a 2 liter, Dr thunder a $1 for a three liter
This right here is what broke the price point for the game, and brought inflation on the rest of the world
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How often were you selling that 2-5 lbs?
Were selling at least 5000-10,000 grams of finished/packaged dabs/carts every day. We are in over 250 stores in oregon right now and that number increases daily.
I dont know any brands that move that much solventless on a daily basis, most the stores we talk to would only buy 5-10% of solventless vs bho.
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That’s because of the price. Everyone wants $8 grams of hash rosin. I promise you that
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yeah but 8 dollar grams of rosin is far less profitable than $5 grams of BHO. its hard to justify any business model with 3-6% yields vs 12-25% yields.
At that rate you need to sell rosin at 4 times the cost of BHO, or pay 1/4 the cost of input material for rosin biomass which isnt going to happen. especially at volume an d a consistent volume.
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Rosin biomass generally also needs to be better quality than bho biomass
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Isn’t that wet vs dry weight? I still think the yield is more with bho, but I was under the impression the yield percentages for rosin were from fresh frozen weight.
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Correct. that yield is fresh frozen vs cured.
Im not sure many people are using cured trim to make their rosin so i was comparing fresh frozen to cured trim/flower.
exactly my point. hard to justify a higher priced lower yielding product over a high yielding low cost material like cured trim/flower.
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Now this is where my maths gets all wonky, but doesn’t 3-6% wet equate to 12-24% yields if the material was dried?
Not disputing anything else, just thought those numbers we approximately the same.
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Some people get by on trim runs some people make nug runs
40-300 dollars for fresh frozen
10-50 for trim
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yeah they equate to be about the same if the fresh frozen was dried… still a little less yield on fresh frozen but lets say they are 100% equal.
You buy biomass by the lb so say you buy 100lb of fresh frozen for $35/lb and only get 5% yields.
Now cured trim/flower is actually usually less expensive than FF but for fun lets say its the same cost. $35 but you yield 12-25%. you will get 2-5x the volume out of the same priced biomass which equates to a lot more volume produced per day.
Then to take it a step further talk about machine time and when you run FF vs cured you get way more product out per day when you are getting 12%+ yields vs 5% yields.
So would you rather have your equipment making 12-25% yields every run or would you rather have 5% yields on a good day.
100lbs a day at 5% yield=25lbs a week produced.
100lbs a day 12-25% yield =60-125lbs a week produced.
Thats why rosin and fresh frozen are not the best choices when your business plan is high volume low at costs.
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So your able to buy dry flower good for $35 a lb???
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Yeah, 20-30 bucks is trim, flower is usually around 30-45 right now.
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What does $30-40 lbs look like?? We are talking thc flower right?? That’s the cheapest I’ve ever heard in my life.
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This was $35 a lb.
I think it tested around 20% so it was not viable to sell as flower since Oregon flower market is so competitive. You pretty much have to have 27% or higher to sell you buds.
Here’s some more small buds we have gotten
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Crazy that goes for $35 a lb. This industry is in a weird downward spiral
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Right!! its a GREAT time to be a processor though!!
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