Thank you, this is excellent bad advice. And I wholeheartedly agree with your adding the disclaimer. I am hoping to really come up with something that protects consumers in the long run.
(Just a heads up that muriatic acid is hydrochloric acid!)
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yes, yes your right, they are the same thing, just whenever i hear muriatic acid i think of nasty cheap ace hardware cleaning products
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Good point! As @Autumn_Ridge_Hemp suggested, this could also be a great way to get some impurities in there.
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reusing recovered solvents without purification and drying would also be an excellent variable to explore aswell. I bet at every stage of solvent reuse, you would see an additional increase in impurity formation.
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I’ve been wanting to do this as well using a c18 column and a Reveleris but haven’t gotten around to it.
I believe that @kcalabs reported the major impurities of interest in a webinar a while back but I forgot the name of the talk.
@kcalabs do you have a report out on the weird d8 isomers you’ve identified?
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Try some sodium hydroxide
Pure gold right here!!! Pure gold!!
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This is such a F4200 thread.
You’ll have to elaborate
Random hacking but with extraction. Something from nothing. Sometimes it births Cool Shit tm.
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Would be interesting to add a known amount of every isolated cannabinoid to your CBD to make a pseudo crude mixture, test the composition, then run the reaction and compare.
If you specifically added different amounts of each cannabinoid you may be able to loosely discern what’s happening to several of them. I suppose you could add some terpenes that would still be found in the starting material. Caryophyllene oxide, guaiol, etc is usually still in distillate. That will make things real messy though.
I will echo what others have said and say get lots of air involved. That’s going to be a big factor that will mimic what a lot of the novice conversions are creating.
Be safe tho. Not everyday people say “how can I do everything wrong” so this obviously will pose new risks that we might not be thinking about.
Interesting to see that they had no reaction with citric acid + EtOH at RT. I can confirm that you will get reactions with long reflux time (36h) at boiling temp (~45% totals incl. ~25% DT9, ~5% DT8, ~15% DT10), results according to external lab HPLC analysis. But it’s not possible to get much higher, and usually less than that. But it’s probably the safest method.
pTSA + Toluene at RT reflux 48h have so far resulted in the highest conversions, but so far not higher than ~85% in totals of DT9 and DT8.
I’m currently testing CSA + Toluene at different temps and reflux times. Has anyone else tried this and can present results?
You should reach ~90% with PTSA (in heptane), acounting for d8 only.
Even above 94% is accounting for iso-THC and d9.
Dealing with CSA, you should reach similar levels overall, but with notably less d8 (up to 82%) and more iso-d8 (up to 15%), and same low 1-1.5% d9.
If you aim for the messiest conversions, you should try PTSA in ethanol.
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Can someone send me the worst D8 possible??
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You’re in CO, right?
Yep, i have delta alternative’s stuff. Worst I have seen to clarify.
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I belong to some hemp groups on FB for when I was more hemp market focused - If you REALLY want to rake in the worst possible D8 I’ll keep an eye out for the next most sketchy one. I can just get it sent to me if it seems interesting so I don’t need to have anyone’s address I don’t need to have. I’ve wondered this myself and want to see how shitty those actually are - basically the same people who feel normal D8 liter prices are far too expensive so I’m curious to see what is in that mystery meat they’re marketing to people who don’t know better (hence why it’s in the FB groups and not sent from an actual distributor)
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isnt there a subreddit for homemade isomerization of cbd? filled with idiots trying to isomerize flower and shit? maybe they can help OP with his search
oh yeah its reddit.com: over 18?
nobody ever do anything they discuss there. at least not if you are going to consume it
@Bret_HoneyGold maybe PM this guy and ask for a sample reddit.com: over 18?
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