Can you or do people run an injection coil in a di slurry with a room temp tank?
I was wanting to run cold without nitrogen. Is that a proper way? I’m assuming since theres pressure in the solvent tank it will push it through.
yes, your coil will just need to be a little longer.
that’s how I run but I feel like even with 60’ of coil Im not getting that cold
Really? Why?
because they don’t have a thermal probe so they can’t know?
@Codemanmakeshash, not dissing your setup…just needed to make the point that the more data you have the better off you are.
I had a “consultant” come over and run bucket tek while I was out of town this week (using my Ace15 as a panda after dunking!)… they told the client that the solvent they’d left buried in dry ice over night was at -80C.
…but they were just guessing because they didn’t use a thermometer.
I checked the stuff that had been in there for 3 days and it was at -40C…because without liquid in with the dry ice, there is F-all in the way of thermal transfer
I use to have a 75’ coil sealed in an igloo container for injection and it worked great. But if its cold enough it wont move unless your pump is running or i would use my multiple honey pots that were still under vac to pull the solvent thru before turning on pumps
Know any cheap -80℃ thermal probes and readers?
Unfortunately I’ve tried two of the less expensive options and am not currently prepared to recommend either.
This should get you to -50. I don’t recall if they go lower. you can buy k-type probes from $5-50 that will work with it.
https://www.harborfreight.com/11-function-digital-multimeter-with-audible-continuity-61593.html
Edit: I’m currently not impressed with the last 4-probe reader I purchased…but I haven’t ruled out “minions dunked contacts in cannabinoids while I was gone”… or $10 probes purchased separately are BS.
I was pretty happy with it a week ago…
How would you go about fitting that to directly probe the temperature of a fluid coming out of a coil? I’m thinking on an NPT Tee
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first response is: how does BizzyBee do it?
there are compression fittings that are designed explicitly for thermocouple ingress that are probably the answer to that question.
https://www.google.com/search?q=thermocouple+fitting
@Soxhlet & @Indofab could place one wherever you want.
edit: you can also npt them into all sorts of places…
yeah, I’d be happy with a Fluke too
does it qualify as inexpensive?
That would depend on who’s buying it. It does work as advertised. I bought an optional wire probe that can be fitted to a compression style fitting.
Running pump to build more pressure in solvent tank? Like recover to add more pressure. Right?
No, warm solvent, DI slurry with a coil in it. Warm tank = high pressure. Cold coil = Cold solvent injection. Pressure from warm tank pushes solvent thru the coil and into the column. As long as his column stays cold he should be good.
You’re right I’m just guessing but my chiller on my columns bottoms out at -23c and after doing a very slow injection through 60’ of coil in di/iso it doesn’t help bring that temp down a single degree so that’s what I was basing my assumption off of that could be completely wrong.
That and to push also
A tee would work, I would add some sort of thermo well to it to get the probe as close to the process flow as possible.
For ethanol I use the compression style thermocouple adapters.
For hydrocarbons I’m not so sure.
I’d probably suggest a thermowell…
Guess that’s what pressure testing is for
So I’m planning on a run like this in the near future.
1 question I have is once I close the valve on my solvent tank, how do I get the solvent left in the coil into the column?