Don’t pull vac while loading imo, pointless to pull vac when loading it, once it’s it’s built pull vac from the bottom through your filter to remove atmosphere that’s all that’s necessary don’t pull from the top powdered will come up in your vac hose,
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Hey guys, i was curious if anyone could shed some light on why my products would be coming out with a greenish hue when i switched to using celite 545 as my filter aid -vs- D.E.
Thanks,
Also that being said i have about 45+lbs of celite for potential sale by the #
Arent you supposed to pull vac from the bottom while packing. Thats how i was i taught to pack a chromatography column
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Literally been thinking the same thing all day. Got clogged twice then said fuck it and called it a day. First time using it too… Soooo if anyone wants a 1um 4" for cheap hit me up. Bought it for 265 ill take 200 for da bitch 8==D~~:heart:
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Are you using atleast filter paper over it or just loaded powders straight onto the plate?
Will do, so this started when I was trying to separate the terps and cannabinoids and get 2 or more fractions off a run. That made me want to try something more like traditional chromatography by using my different propane/butane blends as my solvent gradient to elute different things at different times through the clays. Going through the clays, your terps come out first, then your cannabinoids come out, then some of the bigger stuff.
I started with -30C 100% propane, and used AA, Silica 60, and Bentonite. 100g/lb on decent trim.
Ran the run like normal and at the end there was a clear liquid on the bottom of collection vessel. Which on a propane run, no muffin is odd, because it’s bp is so low. The oil was room temp it looked exactly like water, wasn’t boiling at all, the smell was better then the bag, it looked exactly like what you get from floraplex on a non cannabis terpene blend.
With the viscosity of it, and bp of propane I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out of the collection vessel almost solvent free. I think it happened because the little propane molecules couldn’t hold on to the cannabinoids through the powders at the temperature only the smaller terps molecules. I wasn’t able to test the terps, I still can, if I pay for it myself.
Knowing I had most of the run caught up in the clays, I went ahead and used a 70/30 butane heavy blend. I rewashed the material again to grab any extra cannabinoids the propane didn’t grab and then sent that over the same clays. I recovered pretty warm because i figured the color wasn’t going to be good.
I was surprised what came out was straight white powder. There were a few parts that had a bit of a styrofoam feel to it i think from the 1% terpenes left in it. I chopped it up vac’d it down and sent to testing to find out it was almost isolate wtih 94.5% total cannabinoids from trim!
Pics will be in the next post. Feel free to shoot me any questions I hope this helps someone I have been wanting to contribute more but am unable to a lot of the time due to NDA’s.
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So propane pulls really heavy on the terpenes huh? I’m guessing that’s why it wasnt muffining up right away…
Hows the propane oil look? thanks for sharing the information brother
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Heres a pic of the isolate from the butane heavy run and the terps from propane run is the second pic
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Oh wow so propane through aa,s60,b80 will yield a beautiful mother liquor. Are you going to test the oil?
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That should be against the law! Craft beer maker must try his product! Ur bosses should be fired jk
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I think this is why I was getting close to 15% terps on my extracts. I started out with 70/30 and slowly crept towars 40/60. As a reaction to runnimg warm and the propane heavy mix my pressure also rose to 150psi. I have about 10 miners with some primo clear propane heavy CRC diamonds/sauce cooking.
Edit: Before you run a propane heavy mix pressure test your equiptment.
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@griffin.labs I had hypothesis when crc was first taking off. I believed that because of the adsorbents used that lighter molecules will first fall to the collection vessel followed by the heavy molecules. Everyone has been saying ph has been causing faster crystallization but I believe the way the solution moves through the media helps for the faster formation of crystals since like molecules are concentrating together as it moves through the media. All my crc runs had rapid crystallization. I even had a very dark run from trying to reuse media that had crystallization as well. I was using De, silica 60, t5, de staged my filtration from 100 um, 50um, 25um, 5um, 1um.
Crc is basically chromatography in my eyes and most likely you can separate molecules by the flow rate into separate vessels especially with blended gas I believe
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Oh I mean no doubt that might be how the book says, I was just saying that’s it’s not too necessary, a few good tap on the spool with a rubber mallet causes it to settle just perfect in my experience
Lol I wish I could try it unfortunately in that regard I don’t get to test much of my product mainly cause I make so much and only a small portion goes to stores near me, and I have to buy it on retail since everything is tracked seed to sale and even as a sample manager you can only get 8/month and its a bitch to do… I was actually talking about doing a terpene anaylsis to see which terpenes and how much the clear liquid fraction has.
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Yeah everything I have seen shows that to be true and I have heard similar experiences from other extractors about the terps coming out first. Which can definitely aid in crystallization, especially if you have a more saturated and less viscous mother liquor that doesn’t have as many impurities slowing down the process.
I have much quicker crystallizations with crc but it still takes a little while to grow the bigger stones. Especially since I can’t cap jars.
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Murphy does this, I believe. That’s how she get her “fractions”. It’s pretty nifty.
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There’s a fraction finder you can link right on that bad boy these days too if you really want to dial that in.
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@Griffin.Labs If you aren’t allowed to cap your jars a good alternative to start your crystallization process is to use your collection vessel. After 12 hours I had this in my collection vessel
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu__KssgyTj/?igshid=1v3giq8eew8qo Check second picture to see what the 12 hours look like in a collection vessel
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@Homegrown34 I do like where you head is at!! I could maybe do this to one run a day, due to production. It may not be a possibility but it definitely would be fun to try, Unfortunately without capping that first 24 hours is usually when I find out if it even has a chance to crystallize into individual facets in an open environment.
@Dred_pirate yup, she is one of the coolest people in the industry too, sooo smart!
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