More power to them! Wishing them all the lucky. I’m not risking my freedom like that!
Agreed. And the compliance test, from samples collected as defined the state (and/or USDA) law ,is the ONLY test that determines if it is under 0.3. Not some test of the flower 30 days after it was harvested. I leave it that. Good discussion.
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So what prevents fentanyl hemp in yours and @drake arguement?
Please don’t say the honor system.
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r/cultofthefranklin LoL
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What prevents fentanyl tomatoes? Or fentanyl beef jerky. Shitheads will be shitheads.
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The fda will actually test products on the shelf which isn’t the case in your example.
But the hemp industry has shown to test the lines more often than most industry I’ve seen
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The federal law just passed in 2018 that said states can pass laws that allow people and businesses to get licenses. Some states had their laws before that but they were sort of like medical or rec laws. They were state laws and not federally recognized. In 2018 the federal law changed and allowed states to operate “pilot programs” and only schools are allowed to operate the pilot program.
So all the hemp businesses got into a research agreement with whatever state body issues the licenses and agreed to do research yada yada
Thats how its been up until now. The schools have been operating at “pilot” scale just like in the lab or anywhere else. Everything we have seen until now has been a “pilot episode” for what’s to come next.
At least in my state it pretty clearly says that the only tests that matter are the states pre harvest tests. After the test, if a okay, growers are issued a “fit for commerce” certificate. That certificate must accompany said hemp to whomever the processor is, be it someone extracting, rolling it up, making it into soap, selling it on the shelf or whatever.
In my experience, the third party COAs are there just for the OTC customers, and this is due to the difference in testing procedures between states and our favorite labs. The state has a sheet sent along with their testing minions that say “if the testable area is X amount of plants, take a sample from every Y plant in each row” with a nice little visual for them. The farmer probably isn’t going to send a 55 gallon drum of hemp to their local lab to get final cannabinoid levels. They can of course, but nothing is stopping a different farmer from giving 4 nicely trimmed buds, so there is no set procedure, so it doesn’t matter, really.
Also, hemp growers and processors can hold hot hemp and extracts for a “reasonable amount of time”. I know this cuz the local sheriff pulled me over with our car filled to the brim with fresh cut plants and dabs which were no doubt hot. Everything was confiscated (they had no idea what to do) and returned the next day after a few emails back and forth. It also states in the farm bill that the hemp, as long as accompanied by a state certificate cannot be assumed to be anything other then what it is stated as. Take that last bit of info as you will.
Oh, I also cut that harvest after I received the email, but before I received the hard copy that it passed. So the state was definitely notified that the fuzz had it in their possession, and after we spoke, they told us that the state is in no way looking to make this hard for farmers.
I think it’s important to be careful, but I don’t think third part COAs matter at all, and I only get them for extracts now, not flower.
so there really is not after harvest testing…so after you guys test… you can spray any pesticide or insecticide and not worry about a pass or fail to sell your finished hemp?
am i understanding this correctly? They test at week 6. You can spray avid the week after and not worry about anything?
im not going to the extreme saying fentanyl…but lets say avid…
Noting prevents it just like nothing prevents aspirin being tampered with, except for packaging and chain of custody procedures.
I highly doubt that dispensaries are having randomized tests done on their products for fent
what about pesticides??? and you wonder why the dea wants this more regulated. Do you not see the problem with any of this??
The dea and fda would have something to do with tampered aspirin which is why when it happens…its all over the news…
So really in the hemp industry you can have your crop tested at week 6 of flowering… Find spider mites in week 7. Spray avid in weeks 7-8 and harvest in week 9.
Sell to the public and not need further testing??? You dont see any problem with that???
Its a crop now like every other crop so we can only spray pesticides listed for hemp. I dont think there are any yet until the USDA starts regulating that which is happening.
When they list pesticides they won’t have stuff like avid as allowed. There can be pesticide in the ground residually and that could be from the year before or the year before that.
Oh I definitely see a problem with it.
Here, there are approved pesticides. I personally don’t use any, and test for them in my extracts for other growers.
I’m not quite sure what the FDAs long game is with all this. This could have all had rules two years ago, and that would have have clarification to this, which is their job.
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But if the testing is done at week 6… what prevents someone from doing it. If the final product isn’t tested. What prevents it from happening
What you are saying is true. Also, there are no regulations or requirements for testing for pesticides. The compliance test is for thc potency and that’s it. Yes, maybe some people will do as you say, but there is nothing stoping them regulation wise in the first place. We personally work very closely with our ag dept to use pesticides that are all organic and allowed under broad use labels. And we registered use even if we arent required too. Also, we don’t apply once flowering starts. Hence why I watched caterpillars hit nearly the entire field. We get some and Mother Nature gets her cut. And we test for pesticides which we aren’t required to do. Find a reputable farmer you trust work with them.
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My state is and has been USDA compliant. We have a list of approved pesticides.
But nothing prevents a crop being hot for something not being sold.
What if the pesticide was in the soil prior to you planting hemp? What happens if that pesticide comes up in a test? Or it never will cause it’s not test for ever?
Correct. It never will because it’s not tested for. And I agree man, totally. This is another consequence of the failures of dogmatic thought regarding the drug war on part of politicians. We know that a slight deviation from legal levels of thc will not kill, but some pesticide could, as well as potentially wreak havoc on the ecosystem.
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