Hemp Derived Delta 9 vs Conversion Delta 9

No, because cat 3 has nothing to do with

It

Like i said

I dont think you realize category 3 pesticides weren’t classified by the DCC they were classified by the CDPR (California Department of Pesticide Regulation)

So why would you assume that cat 3 is connected to

They werent even categorized by them…

Thanks for the link. It claims

Category III pesticides are not explicitly tested for by California compliance cannabis labs.

So “cat 3” (presumably) means “free of cat I and cat II”… ie may or may not contain pesticides determined by the state of CA Dept of Pesticide Regulation to be “low risk”.

News to me.

Thanks!

Agreed…and:

California Department of Pesticide Regulation (DPR) categorize pesticides based on their potential risks and use restrictions, which the Department of Cannabis Control (DCC) utilizes when setting the limits for pesticide use on cannabis crops.

We are talking cannabis, and DCC does explicitly set said limits…in section 15719 (https://cannabis.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/08/dcc_commercial_cannabis_regulations-1.pdf#page159)

Technically cat 3 pesticides arent even listes in the DCC rules

§15719. Residual Pesticides Testing.
(a) The licensed laboratory shall analyze at minimum 0.5 grams of the representative
sample of cannabis and cannabis products to determine whether residual pesticides are
present.
(b) The licensed laboratory shall report whether any Category I Residual Pesticides are
detected above the limit of detection (LOD) and shall report the result of the Category II
Residual Pesticides testing in unit micrograms per gram (μg/g) on the COA. The
laboratory shall indicate “pass” or “fail” on the COA.
(c) The licensed laboratory shall establish a limit of quantitation (LOQ) of 0.10 μg/g or
lower for all Category I Residual Pesticides.
(d) The sample shall be deemed to have passed the residual pesticides testing if both of
the following conditions are met:
(1) The presence of any residual pesticide listed in the following tables in Category I are
not detected, and
(2) The presence of any residual pesticide listed in the following tables in Category II
does not exceed the indicated action levels.

Which is why you dont have to explicitly test for them but people do just to be safe

Yep. Already thanked you for that… read much?!?

Or you just here to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative?

So do you and yours refer to “cat 3” as free of said (unlisted) pesticides or not?

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I posted the rules so you can actually see they arent in there instead of believing an article. I tried to copy the whole section but couldnt and gave up after 10 minutes of trying on my phone.

Cat 3 refers to a clean product when it comes to all pesticides, heavy metals, residual solvents, microtoxins, and both micros (regular like mold and yeast and pathogenic like e coli and salmonella, ect)

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I’m not necessarily looking for the Cheapest HD9 brotha. I just want the best price with it being clean for my customers to Vape and/or ingest without 5/10 years down the road causing potential issues.

I’m very very curious how vaping (whether it Nicotine, Cannabis, etc) will effect humans lungs in the long term. I’m 26 don’t age are 50 are they going to be on ventilators and/or having breathing issues because of all the bullshit they are consuming? (Whether they are consuming bullshit to their knowledge or it being spurious {as @cyclopath said so wisely})

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Appreciated. Primary source is always prefered.

I also had issues quoting that source. Which is why I resorted to citing by page number.

https://cannabis.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/08/dcc_commercial_cannabis_regulations-1.pdf#page159

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That’s a nuanced topic that can be discussed ad nauseum… I’ve been doing extensive research into it, and so far if you’ve got completely clean product (disty, Live resin, cannabinoid in general) free of pesticides/mycotoxins/microbes, the two health issues would be inhaling an oil into your lungs (inevitable since we’d smoke pot anyways) and metal contamination from the NiCr heating elements in vapes. I know some folks here might be like “oh muh ceramic vapes” which is stupid because those are in contact with metal conductors anyways that touch the oil AND off-gas when the voltage is ramped. Until someone designs a ceramic heater that has the metal contacts completely sealed off from the oil chamber with published testing to back it, we’re all inhaling nickel and chromium at best… At worst we’re getting a cocktail of impurities in most widely used chinese heating elements (V, Cu, Fe, Co, etc.). Most of the biggest companies are run by MBA pricks that want the best profit margins, meaning the cheapest chinese vape carts that money can buy.

All that being said, take it with a grain of salt. Cannabis is a hyperaccumulator of metals in the ground so you might be getting more exposure to that by smoking herb than vaping. Far too many variables to consider for a hard line stance.

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The most important elements for a clean cannabis product are soil and water source. D9 from hemp that is a thca chemovar isnt synthetic and is safe . CBD-G as a starting point is an9ther story with many variables.

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Never said it wasn’t. I’m talking about conversion from CBD, obviously. High thca plants are perfectly fine, and I wouldn’t call that “hemp” despite what the Farm bill states.

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Here is our latest coa - conversion from cbd iso
signal-2024-10-31-092438.pdf (186.3 KB)

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It may be a loophole by modern beaurocratic standards but there is evidence that quality hemp for fabric , rope and building materials had decent amounts of thc and other cannabinoids that degrade into crystal resistant compounds.

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