I think your buddy said it best “Weed makes me gay”. /S
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BakeBoxx: You joined the forum 2 days ago? Just happened upon this conversation, and you claim to have a company that infuses plant material with THCP for sale to the general public.
I suggest your whole front end here is a fraud.
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So are you just going off “research” or have you actually tried thcp for yourself?
Spice and THCP are very different. Also how am I a scumbag for honestly only caring about the high and only catering to the people who also only care about the high? I use thcp, thc-o, and thca all the time just took 2 dabs last night and ate a 300mg gummy and Im still here. Have you actually tried this or are you just going off your “research”. Theres people who just like getting high and unfortunately regular weed isn’t accessible or legal where they are at so that’s the reason they buy these products they don’t do it because they are worried about how safe it is. Thats the market I’m working with. Also I didn’t ask anyone on here for help the original poster did and I came here to give advice as well as call out people for being Karens but i definitely don’t need help I’ve got my business plan down already for the thc and the kratom products. Have fun wishing death on me while I’m making money though lol 
I hope someone you love buys my products
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No they are not
All spice approx 13000 synthetic cannabinoids including thc-p
As for full antagonist it s strong but there are 10 x stronger noids
Dangerous ? Yes defenatly for those that work with it and for consumers that have no cleu
Actually suprised no deaths have been reported deu to intoxication of thc-p
Doubt there has ever been a antagonist cannabinoid used by so many
The numbers consumed in Europe last year are pretty wild
Labs I am in contact wit produced well over 11000 kg
Usa importers at least the same amount
That’s a lot off doses that have been consumed
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Those wonderful market innovators at MC Nutraceuticals / honeygold / vivimu send it as a little slug of brown sludge (“distillate”) in a syringe. Of course what it actually is (and what isomers) are indeed a mystery, as is the constant ~10% unknowns in whatever they sell. I’d gladly send off a sample if someone else wanted to pay for the analysis, but of course whether any “retention sample” actually came from any particular vendor will just end up as heresay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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No I was simply answering the question at the top of the thread nothing to do with you or trying to commit fraud wtf lol. Like Djceo said, there’s people who just like getting high and unfortunately regular weed isn’t accessible or legal where they are so that’s the reason they buy these products still even knowing it could have harmful effects in the long term if they abuse it. We run a very successful business and THCP is our least sold item, but if my customers are going to request for it specifically, I’m going to pay the extra cost to have it properly made and not just sprayed. All I was simply replying to this post was that spraying THCP is not the way to go…
All I was saying is that “spraying” and other methods of handling “THCP” should be dealt with as if you are dealing with a NEUROTOXIN. Try working with a neurotoxin labeled: “Contact with skin will result in Death.” It will wake you up a bit. There is no amount of money that would convince me to distribute a CB1 full agonist for consumption. Thus this warning.
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Rogue…Look at that synthesis,what would you say the % of correct stereoisomer is?
You are saying 12 tons (USA) of THCP is being produced each year?Crude or the right isomer? Say overall % yield of the correct isomer 10% , then if your 5.5 tons represents the “correct isomer” then the total amount produced as crude product is 55 tons.?? It they are selling the crude product containing 10% right isomer…then I would have to say …interesting.
I would think AB-fubinaca , or K2 might be more simple to Make? Why would anyone want to make 5 tons of THCP. Is there something about the high that warrants that demand?
I think the real problem is how do you know what you are taking. You saw the K2 (?) guys on that video in prison….is this what you experience when you say you smoke THCP? I am just curious.
I ll need to check actual isomer content
And % but pretty sure the synthesis got perfected to a lot higher yields than 10%
But yea it s easier to make several full antagonist noids stg -24 my favorite althou obtaining Neede precursors is a thingy at the thc-p scale
As for why thc-p is so wanted
The fact that it has thc in it s name and that it s claimed to be available in natural cannabis are the only reasons the market grew so fast
As well as the fact that hhc was considered to weak for spraying flowers and deu to the high loading needed the flowers would loose their beauty /color etc
Hhc-p and thc-p have had a big impact on the use of synthetic noids
Where this used to be a product distributed by research chemical company s they are now the wholesalers to the cbd flower company s and they distribute to customers that have no cleu
In my opinion the average research chemical custumer is wat better educated in psychoacrive substances than the average infused cbd flower custumer
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Yeah you’re 100% right. I’ve been annoyed at the cannabinoid examples of this, but stuff like 7-OH chewable tablets in particular are going to be a legit problem at least in the US
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I’ve been waiting to see major media coverage on 7oh, it’s EVERYWHERE. I think real problems will start once people start putting it in vapes. @Roguelab have you encountered 7oh or mitragynine pseudoindoxyl in Europe?
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Yes since Hhc-p and thc-p have been illegelized in most of Europe there s been a slight vacuum
And several ghost synthetic cannabinoids have been on the market
10-oh thc methyl carbonate cbd-9
Cbg-9 etc etc
Lately 7-oh is winning ground althou plenty of cbd product producers fled to spice and are using full antagonist cannabinoids since the loading is so low
Benefiting product visual and detection
There are a few where only 3 grams need to be loaded to 1 kg of flower to make a recreational high and
I know of several cases where the synthetic cannabinoid was not discovered when products where tested for thc content
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As for mitragynine pseudo
Yes it s beeing imported from China but not at a scale yet to notice but it likely will since it is so much cheaper and
Effective
Althou testing is still a thingy here
In Europe for mytraginine in general and the pseudo defenatly
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I didn’t realize mitragynine pseudoindoxyl was being produced in china. Any reason why pseudo is being manufactured but not 7oh?
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If you look up the papers it seems that the synthesis for pseudo yields a lot higher than for 7-oh so I think it s yust a numbers thing
7-oh is beeing synthesized in China
Althou not all samples received turned out to be 7 -oh
But defenatly available
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Do you think the push seen on 4200 of 7-OH products come from direct import from China?
No I don t think so
Althou several members are aware of China manufacturing and are making a killing on the sales
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Plenty of 7oh is made here. I’m not sure there is a logical reason it will always be cheaper in china, the price is already plummeting here. I remember when Chinese CBD was cheaper then domestic, that didn’t last long
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