H2O2 shown as probable cause of rapid crashing "Medusa Stone"

The middle one looks like it’s starting the same thing but you just got jar it to get the regular quick crash crystals
I see it as soon as I pour

Thanks for all the info! Super useful

Well I finally ran out of my liquid gold (year+old n butane)
Filled the tank up and I’m now in it at both locations. Been a fun year on easy mode growing fat monos easy af at the one location but new solvent and after a year of no problems at one spot and constant at the other I’m not in Medusa hell at both locations.



These were poured a few days ago with old butane and are on their way to being some nice fat monos.


This was same material, new gas. Crashed out sugar in a few hours. Couldn’t have done this even if I wanted to before.

What ever it is, is coming from the butane tanks. My year long split test came to an end and I for one sure wish it would have been the biomass but that is impossible based off of what I have seen.

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The saga continues

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Are you sure you aren’t using isobutane?

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did you get (save) samples of your “old” gas before finishing it?

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I have a 2 year old 70/30 tank we can test

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Can never be too sure famalam.

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The most… I’m struggling not to be rude, ridiculous part about the isobutane claim is that gas suppliers literally sell a butane/isobutane/propane blend.

Between that, and people I know growing diamonds with goddamn canned gas, can we just fuck off with the isobutane claims? @TRIPPIE I’m trying not to be rude, but how are you still convinced it’s a solvent that’s been in our gas since 2006?

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Pull up to fortuna and I’ll talk with you I’m not talking on here man

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That sounds like a long drive homie.

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My gut feeling is that this is going to be a chemical that has a close bp to butane but has increased reactivity due to increased degrees of unsaturation. I don’t know the probability of cyclobutane or cyclobutene in the feedstock but they are both crystalline solids at -80c and have bp near butane. Or propene/propylene as I’ve said elsewhere.

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Has anyone tried “crashing” a rapid crash on dry ice? I witnessed it for the first time last week, and when the jars came out the pour spout they were fine. The second the temperature changed they started a vicious reaction/crash into sand.

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My process is 100% alcohol based and I don’t deal with THCA but I’ve been making nice CBG, CBGA, CBD “sharder” with no issues. I grow seaurchins and then strain them but recently I’ve noticed that everything sugars and solifidies. And it doesn’t matter if it’s a crude (winterised or not), distillate whateva. The temperature doesn’t matter, solvent level, cannabinoids level. It happens fast. Jar full of runny, alcohol reaking crude that is closed will turn in to solid overnight.

I was able to partition partially decarbed crude and centrifuge out CBGA first, then centrifuge sugared HTF and get CBG, then the bloody HTF would continue to sugar and after third spinning get a mixture of minors. All in one work day. The sugar would just keep coming out.

I left a jar of tails in a jar at room temp for maybe few hours and 3 different shapes of cristalls would start forming. Seaurchins, sugar and cubes. By the end of the day the whole thing turned solid and opaque.

I didn’t change my SOPs in years but all of a sudden for past few moths I just can’t keep my extracts liquid. Funny thing is after redissolving in Pentane the cristallisation works fine nad remaining htf stays liquid.

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Lol, you’re too much dude.

Hydrogen peroxide is also used en masse to remove mercapatan from butane.

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Welcome to the future @Betterlivingwithchem! Interesting point worth diving into.

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There is a french patent for cristalisation of carboxylic acid in hydrocarbons with h2o2 and cobalt: <0.0002% as catalist.

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mine just did it. but it was same pouroff into 2 jars and one did it. so is it the gas? I shouldnt even responded to you because you are an asshole to me.

are you suggesting i can clean gas station propane gas with h202? If they want cheap hash oil that may be what they get. customers are so ignorant to good producers and think they go ultra cheap and get good things.