Group Buy (?) Planetary Centrifugal Mixer / Dual Axis Centrifugal Mixer

These super interesting vacuum dual axis planetary centrifugal mixers for degassing/mixing/HTE separation/whatever things are cool. I want one.

Functional equivalents are sold by C1D1 Labs, Spin Tech, SpeedMixer, Hauschild, Thinky, Shen-Cing, Vasti, ZYE, GCT-Mix, and a bunch of other companies/brands.

As far as I can tell, the ones that are presently being flogged to y’all at a ~200% markup are made by Shenzhen Smida. Probably a TMV-1500T or TMV-1500TT.

C1D1 claim they’ve “done R&D” and their unit is “patent pending for the dual mode functionality” - which sounds to me they’re trying to get a patent on “we put a mesh basket inside your centrifuge basket” for which I would be willing to bet there is a non-zero amount of prior art, but patent trolls gonna patent troll, so whatever.

I don’t sell equipment to make a living - I don’t even like selling any of our custom equipment to my friends. As businesses go, it’s a time consuming pain in the ass, and unless you want to be a rapacious asshole and charge an obscene markup, or do super specialty custom stuff - or usually both - it’s not easy to make a living doing it.

But I hate watching people get taken advantage of. For what C1D1 / Spin tech charges for their oh-so special one, you can get the biggest unit that Smida advertises - it’s 10x the size - and still have enough left over for your local UL guy to come bless it. Or get what looks like the same thing from the same OEM, and have enough left over for a brand new Toyota Corolla.

After I commented in the last thread on the topic a number of you messaged me about doing a group buy type thing.

I’d planned on doing it if enough people piled in that I felt I could charge a transparent and reasonable markup and get one of the smaller examples of these machines for my own lab for something close to free.

At this point, I don’t think there are enough people that that’s the case. But there are a good number of y’all, so perhaps if anyone interested sticks their head in here, something could be worked out between everyone.

One problem is that it looks like most of you may want different sizes/models, and the economies of scale for manufacturers only really kick in once you’re buying a bunch of the same unit, so I’m not certain of how significant of a discount we could get.

Group buys are also a risky pain in the ass for the person doing them, because you’ve got to chase a whole bunch of people for money. If someone doesn’t pay the final amount for their kit, everyone else might be screwed unless they kick in additional funds.

Let the dumpster fire commence, or whatever.

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I was importing these before Alex argued with me about them lol.

They are straight forward, the 1500 is the one you want.
Scroll vacuum.
They come standard with a HMI that lets you srt RPM/vacuum settings in stages.

Im unsure if Smida has the cups Alex is selling, with the filters.

They do have the stainless cups.

I dont see a real use for this unless you need to degas alot of HTE fast.

Kinda a gimic.

Also used to mix terps with distillate.
But other than that they are like 700 lb paperweights lol.

Unless you need your HTE degassed same day, all the time.

I prefer using ovens. Crashing the thca normally.

If anyone wants them i can shoot you the persons info, or offer them to you ourselves with taxes/import/freight fees all included to your door.

Dm if interested.

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I think that something like this could be used for final drying of bulk isolates.

Like a double cone or other single axis tumble dryer, but almost certainly much faster.

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Unsure if its going to move your powders, its usually used for slurry/gels at most.

Never ran pure powders.

Murph is showing it with thca dissolved in pentane, baing degassed into a thca muffin.

Idk how it would be used for concentrates other than the two functions I stated, or large scale sugar/hte seperation. (I think heated units are better, and cheaper than these planetary models, less moving parts too)…

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That’s why I only want one to play with.

I think it’s a neat toy.

I think it’s possible I could convince it to speed up something that presently takes longer than I would prefer.

It looks like it might also be convinced to size reduce the material in question, or at least to ensure that it was reasonably uniform.

I also am not willing to place a big bet on any of that, because it’s firmly in the “more research needed” category.

(Really, a Nauta Mixer is probably the most correct tool for the job, but they’re $$$$$ and wouldn’t involve me spending a bunch of time mucking about in the lab playing with new toys.)

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You’re not alone…

…that was six years ago.

Reducing the price of admission would certainly go a long way.

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I’m in …

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