Or… You could shut off your tank and disconnect your recovery hose then carefully let the gas out from the recovery port and view the sight glass opposite of the recovery port and wait till you can pour it up…
IMHO, An adjustable prv that you can set down to 5psi mid run would mitigate the issues of a clog
On one of these solvent threads, there was a diagram that someone drew of the supply chain. It showed the major Solvent suppliers and the distributors. Does anyone recall that or where I might find it?
I’ll see if I can dig it up, but I think it all boils down to Diversified and Cortland at the top of the pyramid. Whether they source from the same place or not, or have multiple suppliers is beyond my knowledge.
Yes. It was a map of the distributors and I believe it debunked the idea that one or the other was immune.
This is so cool. honestly, what a tidbit!
Also as I assumed, the problem is likely to vanish. I believe the Bakken oil fields are pumping again to cash in on the prices and reports of the problem not happening are around, so perhaps it coincides.
The tertiary amine causing the issue should be MDEA, what are your thoughts?
You have no clue what I’m referencing or how it was set up at the time.
Clogged drain valve, poking with a steel rod bent like a coat hanger. Blam, oil everywhere
You think fast crashing in the collection could be mitigated by a 5psi prv!? Please explain to the class how that would work
I think we’ve figured out the @TheWillBilly tek! He must have have gotten a consult from walter white and now uses butane with methylamine to get blue diamonds in 24 hours
You’re right
What doesn’t make sense to me is that if I use new, recovered, or old gas, I can cold crash the same with all of them. There is no difference and I don’t see any fast crashing in my pot with either. The only difference I see is the new gas will Medusa ONLY if I crystallize below 80f. However that could be due to the speed at which it crystallizes 10-12hrs. It yields pretty bars or huge rocks with great clarity but it’s too fast and it traps solvent in the lattices causing it to off gas once exposed to the atmosphere.
To the guys who were using this sop before they encountered this problem, we’re you crystalizing big stones like that with great clarity in the same speeds? And no Medusa would happen?
Quoting this to just… hammer this home as loudly as possible.
I honestly got nothing to add, but anyone claiming that this is just bad tech needs to look in the mirror, and visit a few other labs.
I’ll say it once more. Who the fuck could crash a jar of isolate in 20 minutes 2 years ago? That shits not normal, and if you think it is, sober up.
It’s believed to be two separate issues, I can’t imagine you are dealing with the fast crash issue at the level most are if any at all.
With bad gas that has been filtered over 13x and AA:
I can purposely try and cold crash a Pyrex pan and have standard crashing occur and it eventually stops and my solution stabilizes while the pan remains partially crashed and remains very loose and wet (heavy on solvent)
With bad gas:
I can then try and pour for badder leaving much less solvent than the above example and have a pan have an AGGRESSIVE boil that continues far past the standard cold crash and will continue to boil until all the solvent is gone and you are left with a pan full of rock hard sugar that has to be dug out of the pan with a chisel.
This was within 10 minutes of pouring.
By looking at the extract I can tell it’s mainly thca. With more thca in it you would have to go hotter like when making slabs from isolate to keep the extract in oil form. If there was more sauce in it I’m sure it wouldn’t fast crash so easily
Aggressive boils are usually propane or “it that shall not be named”
You use acidic medias? I’ve been curious if that + high collection temps prevent the fast crash for people like @Waxplug1
I only use w1 I get fast crash all the time famalam. I prevent this by staying under pressure
I’m not doing a class. Not sure how that came about. Also a few yrs ago not everyone was using the 100lb tanks. A lot where still using cans
The mystery oil keeps it dissolved lol
If you add water clear terpenes to isolate to crystallize with, that will prevent a fast crash and will change the temp at which it starts to crash. I see this in miners and with pentane that had terpenes as a cosolvent
Now were talking my language 
Different terps will have varying results I’m sure. I suspect there may be certain terps that act as an antisolvent. Some hte just won’t dissolve thca very well from what I’ve seen
