First try at diamonds, advice needed, please

Dude holy shit out of my 5 tries and my 4 failures ( not sure about the 5 th time quite yet) what you got is so mouth watering !!! I wanna taste success lol

1 Like

Wow those diamonds came really clean did you wash them at all? Impressive run what was the starting material if you don’t mind me asking?

2 Likes

The starting material was od fresh frozen flower.
No “washing” per se, I tumbled them around on parchment to clean em up a bit though.

Whats been the issue, Theimaginationgarden? whats the end result look like?

1 Like

I’ve gotten sugar and I’ve gotten a jelly/gelatin type result from mason jars. 0 success with the last diamond miner attempt… tried the miner again. Been 2 weeks nothing’s really occurred too drastically. When I look down the sight glass it seems as tho there is a film over the product inside. Great color and super good smell then I off gass. Pressure stopped building naturally so I added some nitrogen. Not really sure where to go from here lol.

Kinda seems like a sandy/ brown sugar type stuff in the product I guess sort of lol.

Whats the viscosity like? What was the starting materials age? High terp or low terp or unknown? How much residual tane, did you recover your collection pot to vacuum levels and if so how low?
Try to determine if you are undersaturated, supersaturated or getting to the amorphous/glass transition.
Is your solutions solvent terp or tane dominant.
How stable are your temps and what is the temp range?

If you get tiny grains"sugar" or jelly or some slight sugaring then stalling cause its thickening, your solution is in the supersat / amorphous area of the curve. In this case, usually, to get larger/more growth you would need to decrease your saturation levels which mean increasing your solvent amount OR increasing your solutions solubility with temperature manipulation, aka warm your solution.

There is a large range of possibilites required, some of my varieties need to be heated to 120-130 to get results like ive posted, others require temps below freezing before they get into the supersaturated or meta stable zones.

What a miner allows one to do is manipulate the amount of below room temp boiling point solvents. This is primarily a advantage if your starting material is lacking in natural solvent(terps). In the case of my varieties that I take to 120+ degree’s, If I had a miner I would be able to add butane to my solution to lower its solubility vs raising the temps.

Another important factor is the solutions vessel size, headspace, and surface area to volume. Thinner solutions have less freedom for molecular movement, basically meaning they’d be more prone to precipitate vs larger singles.

Look just as much into “why” as we do “how” will benefit anyone who wants to grow crystals.

32 Likes

We are growing diamonds in 7 pressure vessels (by BHOGART), under slight N2 pressure (around 100-150). We have noticed some growth in some vessels, and barely any action in the others. Will agitating the vessels (shake, move around, etc) once vessels have been seeded be beneficial? I am kind of a noob on this topic, but I have a strong grasp of chemistry.

(We are using crude BHO oil for reference)

From my understanding agitating will only cause the solution to grow sugar not crystals but someone correct me if im wrong

10 Likes

try seeding the stalled vessels

4 Likes

Thats what i was thinking seed it then give some pressure back and should get going first time i tried i had no activity until i seeded and gave built more pressure still failed at diamonds got notbing but sugar but i agitated so much through the process

1 Like

freeze the jar/miner to lower the psi.
once psi is 0 you can remove the lid, and drop a seed crystal on top of the frozen mass. Place the lid back on the vessel and continue where you left off. That is how I seed the solutions.

21 Likes

This was super helpful thank you so much !

1 Like

I wonder if someone will ever make stainless steel removable plates with certain etchings that promote nucleation.

2 Likes

Hopefully progress today on burp check!

3 Likes

latest batch using otss

19 Likes

Shatter jaqualine or however you spell it makes em. Turnkey labs I believe she works for

5 Likes

Yo those are super nice !

1 Like

Chances are the saturation levels are about off on the ones that are not growing, try reducing the solvent level or increasing. Too little solvent seems to guarantee sugar…

2 Likes

well… it happened…

14 Likes

Guess I’m seeing why some ppl suggest only a miner…:unamused:

Man I’m hoping that was old jar or just to much solvent before capping…

6 Likes