not sure how far ASTM got down this road.
would make some sense to figure that out
even if it’s just a vocab document at this point, we probably shouldn’t ignore it…
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Thank you so much for putting this together. I dont have time now but ill edit this with my thoughts later.
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Hello everybody, I’ve got invited to talk with y’all about these subjects and will help any way possible. I come from a petrochemical background. The reason I got invited was from the TT thread. If you have not read it please do. It’s long but it’s my only crediation of intergerty. I’ll be willing to meet anybody to prove my worth and that I’m trying to only help better the business and keep out of corporate tycoon greed. We have a lot of subjects to cover. We need to organize this better. Like a flow/tree chart so we know how to keep organized. Maybe set up a google drive so we can input data but through an encrypted network or closed discussion bc these issuses and solutions will show our weakness and can counter act our plans so if it’s completly open we can get hit where it hurts if not the right people are viewing it
I don’t know if I missed it, but eventually we will get into the realm of QC, Validation and QA with regards to cleaning/sterilization, monitoring the environment of a manufacturing space (bacteria, fungi, air quality, surface cleanliness).
Most industrial scale plants will have to demonstrate the effectiveness of processes and post-process procedures through test protocols.
It’s all goin GMP baby
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Cultivation side i have an older gentleman and i consider him a true master grower. His schooling background i think he told me was geology and micro climates. Also he was raised under a microbiologist. he is 100% organic. you dont feed the plant you feed the soil. Ill get in touch with him in the next day or two but if i get some time and ask if he wants to take part in this. Like i said he is older and im not sure him time schedule. Also i thought of another solution for terpene situation. I know the coowner of cannabinder.This program will help us tremendously and start a terp profile and what it does to the mind/body. Both these people i regard highly as people who want the best for everybody and love what they do. I want to address one concern OSHA. Has OSHA visited any facilities? bc as i have read they just been doing meetings. If they implement anything like the have in petrochemical field than businesses can be fined so hard they will have to shut down. We need to start finding resources who are safety engineers or osha consultants. We use proccess equipment as they do and a lot of the regulation will be the same. A good start is to recommend at least one person from a lab to do get an OSHA-30 certifications. Every lab i’ve been too has infractions but the thing is they dont know better. They want to know what they are doing wrong. Thats why i always start with the OSHA 30 card bc i dont know exact information on this side and its been a decade since ive received my card. An example i see a lot is i ask where is the msds? is it ready access available for all employees to see the MSDS? Its a workers right to know. @TheGratefulPhil A good start would to look at the food industry. I worked as a bartender for years. A few things i remeber we had to do or we woud get fine. No open water source of still water sitting in open containers or puddles. Two we had use organic sterilizing agents such as simple green with HOT water.
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We definitely should. Bc eventually the process units will be to large to facilitate in a building or certain parts of it will be outside such as cooling towers.
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Ok, so maybe compile a list indoor will not be susceptible to cross pollination or pesticide contamination when outdoor will. Also nutrient dosing can be controlled very precisely indoors where outdoor plant are subject to Heavy metals and pesticides in the soil.
Another thing that indoor cultivators do not have to worry about is CEQA regulations. As long as the structure is existing they are exempt.
The more I think about this it is going to be a monumental task that will require an all start team to really work together.
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@TheGratefulPhil I just remembered. Labs have different levels of cleanliness like 1-10 scale. Extreme side of the levels are ones who deal with deadly airborne and pathogenic deadly/viruses that require a full suit with aspirator and decontamination station. We of course are not close to this but they have regulated standards in place for labs if im not mistaken. @MagisterChemist im not sure if you want to help on this thread but can you at least confirm this?
Certainly an option. Probably the biggest thing associated with GACP is the culling/removal of out of spec plants (those not falling in tolerance of a reference standard plant) from the harvest. Those that show disease, improper structure, excessive damage or contamination need to be removed prior to harvest. Goal is uniformity across the crop.
This is correct about the labs. I have someone on our team that this is his space. Even the air conditioning system and air filtration goes with your grade or level.
We have looked into this. The easiest way to accomplish this is thru tissue culture. We have been in the process of building “clean atmosphere controled” cultivation areas.
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I dont follow… testing of each plant? Or tissue culture for clones? Bc some of the market will grow from seed, which is acceptable. It the culling of males, really whack phemothypes, and diseased plants thats in line w/ GACP, regarless of seed, clone, tissue, etc.
the level is classified thru the NFPA standards, but each state can also set their own regulations.
little bit of a spoon, didn’t realty read it
@BG305 Im about this. Its been a while since i used dropbox but we have to make sure restrictions are in so nobody can come in delete everything. i seen this happen at one of my last jobs in the south.
Have you guys seen this?
https://hempsupporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/US-Hemp-Guidance-Program-Phase-2.pdf
It spells it out pretty detailed. There’s some rent seeking “requirements” put in here I’m sure to only allow the big boys to play, but can’t say I disagree with the procedures. I don’t think this is anything from a government authority, and more of an internal standard or approval (we saw things like this in the vape industry before fda released any rules, kind of bridged the gap so to say in form of self regulation).
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Yeah the hemp roundtable is an industry group, has good people in it too