So, in a discussion with a friend of mine, we got on the topic of what to do if they totally ban ecigs, and how to still obtain nicotine if it is regulated. I did a little research, and found http://www.kau.edu.sa/GetFile.aspx?id=137651&fn=extraction_of_nicotine_from_cigarettes.pdf
The method described there calls for ether, which is DEA list 2. Would there be a different solvent that one could substitute in a post vapeoclypse world?
CO2? US4153063A - Process for the extraction of nicotine from tobacco - Google Patents
"A two-step process has been developed for the purification of nicotine from waste tobacco using an aqueous two-phase system and solvent reverse extraction. The partitioning behavior of nicotine was investigated in an isopropyl alcohol/ (NH4)2SO4 aqueous two-phase system. The effects of the addition of salt, pH and temperature on the partitioning behavior of nicotine were studied. The recovery rate of nicotine was 96.1% with a purity of above 99% when optimal conditions were used [(NH4)2SO4 25%, pH 9, temperature 35°C, isopropyl alcohol 5 mL]. "
TY for the link, reading it now. CO2 defeats the purpose, the idea is small scale, can be done at home. It appears your paper may yield some insight however
nicotine is soluble in water and nonpolar solvents. I assume adjusting the pH would keep it shelf stable.
With nicotine being freely available nationwide, wouldn’t it make more sense to stock up on it now? Personally I love the idea of being able to create/extract anything I need, but nicotine is bargain basement cheap. If you’re worried about the domestic supply drying up in the face of new legislation I suggest buying kilos of it today.
Or just get some seeds and have an unlimited supply.
That’s the thing though. Wouldn’t a lifetime supply of nicotine cost like $800?
I am stocked. How does that help other people though? I cannot stock up enough to supply everyone in perpetuity…
I can, however, figure out how to easily extract it now, for a possible future prohibition
or, just because it is there
Nicotine is present in tomatoes and other plants.
Edit damn hit submit too soon.
The real thing would be to figure out how to do a full tobacco extract. There’s more than just nicotine in there. Big tobacco controls most of the tobacco so it’d be hard to get enough biomass to do testing and research but that’s where the future will go regardless of what happens to e cigs.
How would it be hard to obtain enough biomass? You don’t need a huge amount to be able to extract any nicotine, and I don’t see the point in whole tobacco alkaloid extract. The ecig market has tried that before, and nobody cared.
Oh. I didn’t realize that you wanted to become the nicotine plug lol. Yeah good luck with that.
The ecig market gave up because it wasn’t soluble in pg/vg from my understanding
nah, not the plug, that would be illegal in this case. I just want to make a tek
You can get nicotine from potatoes. potato nicotine - Google Search
There’s such a deficit of US based snus producers, you could try to make a batch starting with the equivalent of low potency cut rag, potash, salt, and infusing it with a “full spectrum” tobacco extract. It’d also be the next logical step if ecigs were outlawed.
Nicotine can go through your skin but it is a slow process. Also just FYI it can kill in large amounts so try not to spill a bunch of it all over yourself. If you’re only doing small scale then the worst thing that can happen is you get hella buzzed. Unless you make a formulation that allows for it to pass through your skin super fast with some type of nano-emulsion.
I grew up on a multigenerational tobacco farm in NC.
Ive “topped” tobacco, harvested and barn’d it since i was a kid. Its got sticky trichomes like cannabis. After a few minutes of handling, you could make tobacco charras from the resin on ya hands.
Theres many types of tobacco. the commercial varieties are bred for commercial products, but theres non-commercial varieties that contain some really interesting compounds.
If i were going to make an extract - full spec or just isolate, Id try N. rustica. Its got an interesting profile, but isnt grown in mass in the usa to my knowledge. you can easily get seeds for it and grow in ya garden, ive done it and im far from a greenthumb.
Otherwise, just ride thru the south east during this time of year. you can find fields of it and i doubt anyone will care if you took a few lbs out of the field to dry/cure yourself.
Now if someone could find a way to capture the flue exhaust during cure of brightleaf to make a flavoring that’d be money! Flue curing process smells amazing. The aroma fills the air this time of year and I have never seen anything that came close to replicating that aroma.
