Extraction General Chat Archive

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envee

Is this a channel for all types/methods of extraction?

sidco

For now, yes

Photon_noir

I like coffee.

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Extractionperson2.0

Have you ever had the kind of coffee that is made from beans that have been shit out of an animal? Bucket list for me. So far I’ve only eaten gummy worms from a strippers ass.

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Photon_noir

I am curious what in the coffee beans might be extracted by mammalian digestion… Or what in gummy worms may be extracted by dancer derrier…:thinking:

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envee

Have you ever made cannabis smell and look like coffee grounds?

there is a way… not pleasant one… but it's possible

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Killa12345

Shit…… I took that as he likes to eat shit. To answer your question, he’s extraction shit from the dancers derrier.

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HappyFeet420

Pay me $1,000,000,000

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Extractionperson2.0

whats the largest scale limonene extraction system anyone has played with?

SubstituteCreature

It's pronounced

LEMON-NINE

But i've squeezed a lemon or two once.

got kicked out of the store but i'd say the extraction was a success

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Photon_noir

Probably the industrial scale extraction of limonene from citrus peels to make cleaning products and the like.

SubstituteCreature

Seeing that for the first time really gave me an idea of the solvent potential of terps in relation to rosin

My brother brought that to my attention and it just sent me down a rabbit hole…

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Extractionperson2.0

I mean a system using liminene as a solvent

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NewLevelProcess

When you recover your limonene solvent all of your Pinene terpinolene terpenine and all the limonene isomers are going with it

So maybe for crude

And don't push with CO2

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the.shopdog

Hey all I’m a free agent looking for some work, i come with sops and certified on equipment , would love to get it going again

Extractionperson2.0

And everything with a lower boiling point and slightly higher as well since we always overshoot a bit

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WorkingOnIt

Thank you for this post, Horatio is still inspirational

Dred_pirate

Limonene is really hard to remove the last amount, it has a high BP. I had some people who I worked for like 6-7 years ago that tried it. They left it being vacuumed over night pulling on multiple other ovens that had shatter in em. Next morning everything had turned to goop and auto buddered. I couldn't stand them, it made me laugh because I had nothing to do with it. I was only there to make crumble, because they couldn't "figure it out".

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c0dean

after an LLE run and what i thought was a balanced pH… my 1st pass of d8 is ever so slightly pink but clear in a sample jar.

do i need to do another complete LLE or can i toss some baking soda into the boiling flask and do a 2nd pass to remediate??

MedicineManHempCo

Let’s see a picture @c0dean

c0dean



i could be wrong here but i was checking the pH of my aqueous layer each time i did my LLE until the final two washes of just d.w. and my pH was saying 6.5

MedicineManHempCo

Do you have an KOH?

*any

How did your LLE washes look coming out?

c0dean

just non caustic as fertilizer

i dont have any KOH just… good ol potassium

the first two base washes were dingy pink and cloudy AF

the 3rd and 4th brine and acid washes began to clear up with slightly cloudiness

the final washes were water clear … i tested the wash and pH told me 6.5 so i thought ok im done. distilled yesterday and before i left for the house it was pinky and the brain dude

but the sample jar i pulled mid run was water clear

MedicineManHempCo

get some. Mix ~1g in 40mL of etOH. Then you can put a drop of your disty onto a paper plate and then a drop of the KOH onto the disty. If it turns as purple as Barney’s Dick, you still have CBD in there.

I’ll send you the writeup. But I think there could be some CBD remaining in there. Do you use an adsorbents on your first pass?

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c0dean

t-41 was in the flask while distilling. i know AC is an adsorbent but is acidic t-41 considered an adsorbent?

MedicineManHempCo

How much?

c0dean

3,000g 99.9 cbd iso to 450g t-41

15% by weight

was doing 10% previous a d someone suggested bumping to 15% to make sure all CBD has isomerized

so i gave it a go and now im left with pink in high volumes… crystal water clear in small volumes. i highly doubt its just chromatic aberration

someone told me previously that it could be oxidation because my SPD unit wasnt running inert??

my argument would be that i would develop a ring not an entire hue change of the flask but my knowledge and experience is very limited

Cheebachiefextracts

Are you distilling the whole batch into one main body or are you pulling heads fraction ?

MedicineManHempCo

I have found that too much adsorbents can definitely yield a pink/red hue when distilling. I have never attempted a bf RXN as I have always followed the reactor SOP. We use 1.5% adsorbents and we generally get a very neutral color

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c0dean

i pulled heads but it wasn't much… once my shit starts to seriously coil and theres no drip and my cold trap isn't dropping beads i switch flasks

heads were clear though

MedicineManHempCo

Makes sense. Heads looked clear, and then the rest of the oil had time and temp to change color with the presence of too much adsorbents.

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c0dean

i'll dial back the t41 back to 10% for the next round

MedicineManHempCo

So let me get this straight, you are doing a bf RXN, then distilling, LLE, redistillation?

c0dean

yes sir

MedicineManHempCo

on your redistillation, Have you tried 5%?

c0dean

we have a stainless reactor so im scared to do a RXN in it. im afraid acids will cause galvanic corrosion and fuck it up. waiting on my investors to get me a damn glass reactor

then i can do a pTSA rxn

MedicineManHempCo

I prefer stainless… just make sure to clean it after use. We react, then do our washes, then move on to solvent recovery in the roto, then distillation

Cheebachiefextracts

I have a question. After lle how are you ensuring you have no water content left prior to slapping into a roto then spd

you can do one in the spd if you want to grab the right head to do it

along with a few other items to run inert

c0dean

how do you clean your reactor after the RXN?

i look at the solution in my flask before i roto… if i see any layers forming i try to seperate them. do you think teeny water particles are stuck in the organic layer.

when i rotovap i get what seems to be pure heptane … i dont see a layer forming in the receiving flask

do brine washes not pull the h20 from the organic layer?

i was doing 2 brine washes at 5%

Cheebachiefextracts

It could be a possible culprit tbh, there’s a few factors meaning you have either powders left over which if your filtration after lle is good I don’t see why you should. Then second, water content being present & not dealt with can cause unwanted color change to happen as well. I suggest sodium sulfate to pull the rest of the moisture some will suggest mgso4. You can pour the powder into what you’ve collected the organic layer in(flask) and watch the salt absorb the water content then filter it all out over a 25um filter or lower. Then roto & spd.

No brine washes won’t pull all of it from the organic layer, you’ll still have a minuscule amount.

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c0dean

nice dude… i have a 50lb bag of mgso4

Cheebachiefextracts

I can’t attest to the quality of it for being an input consumable to this but I will say always make sure you grab quality products that are meant for their purposes of course. If you can find it in bulk / quality that’s awesome!

NewLevelProcess

You're not cutting right

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c0dean

i do my LLE in my 5L reactor. what im gonna do is remove my aqueous after 25 min of settling… then add some mgso4 to my organic thats left in the reactor and see if i get another layer at the bottom… then i can filter it all out after seperated

NewLevelProcess

You need to run the color forward and switch to mains when it runs clear

Ideally switch pathway

c0dean

what if my heads fraction is water clear ? and im basing when to switch not off color but off consistency. when it begins to seriously coil and not drip was my que

also when my cold trap has almost nothing going on… is another indicator i was using

telling me that most if not all volatiles are done boiling

NewLevelProcess

That's the beginning of your heads

And if you run with powder, when it hits dryness you're going to send powder through you system

You'll run through clear then purple then pink then clear almost yellow tint

You can start at the yellow

You also might be going too fast through your heads to catch your main

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Thedistillator

Wow, i dig the new layout. Okkayyyy

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dutchmulti

Looking for a spd expert in the nederlands

MedicineManHempCo

@c0dean i think you should spend some time reading here on the alkaline beam test. First you need to ensure that you are getting complete conversion. If not, your color will not be right. After you ensure complete conversion, you need to spend time dialing in your adsorbents. On first (and only for us) pass, we are using around 1.5-3% adsorbents. Everytime we have used too much adsorbents, we get distillate that looks like yours.

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c0dean

thanks my man @MedicineManHempCo i appreciate it

hey @MedicineManHempCo i used 5% and its turning out MUCH better thanks for the spoon dude

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MedicineManHempCo

Nice job brotha! Feels good to be able to contribute back with what I’ve learned so far

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ThePhilosopherStoned

Is there a thread dedicated to the analytics the terpene panels from concentrate CoAs? I'm interested in seeing what %s everyone has been seeing on their BHO and Rosin, both live and cured…

analytics of terpenes*

cyclopath

So start sad thread…

said :rofl:

ThePhilosopherStoned

Was just checking to see if there was one first…search results are terp heavy but didn't see a specific allocation thus far :upside_down_face:

I shall kick it off

anonish

Curious if there's an obvious difference between the lower and higher testing strains. Do the higher testing varieties generally always have louder profiles?

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