Any info on this, seems to be popping up…
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Doesn’t seem to be a real chemical with an actual structure, I would personally never consume anything made by anyone claiming to sell this if they won’t tell me what the magical active ingredient is.
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same.. i ran it through my sop hunterr and it has nothing.. from what i can tell it surface about 8 months ago as a possible loophole to get around the closing of the thc loophole. two loopholes colliding sounds dangerous..
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Doesn’t work, not sure why Cheech n Chong rolled it out. There is only “one” lab that can test it (red flag #1). I have already ordered and tried all forms (vapes, gummies and “distillate”) all trash
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So this is what we’re doing now…
I tried it and was stoned for a long time. I bought it from cheech and chong. Bascially everything is now coming from europe with new cannabis that beat the test. Which bascially means there isnt any standards and its not thc or hhc.
Apparently this is a cbg conversion but realistically no one knows. Unfortunately this is where the market is going in the rest of the world where hhc and thca has been banned. If you dont have options this is the next best thing.
We are blessed by selection and availability in USA but legal businesses have to follow the law and that means products like this will continue to exists.
There is another 2 cannabinoids being released which are shorter in experience such as VLN and N12.
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What specific product did you try?
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The 1ml pen. The liquid is quite runny but I just wanted to check it out. This was the 3% one. I had tried another version that did nothing for me.
If it is Euro , @roguelab will know.
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Basically there are new cannabinods or specifically a single cannabinods that is being called different things names in different countries. It has a mass weight of 316 or 364 i cant remember. @kcalabs has tested it and it is a cannabinod they think however they dont know what it is.
The difficulty is of course is actually confirming what it is.
The COA of the “EPN” vape sold by cheech & chong lists the cannabinoid as tetrahydromethylisopentyl-ethylcannabinol.
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@moronnabis , does that sound like a real thing?
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At 3% consistency is not a good marker
The consistency was likely deu to mct oil or other carrier used
This shit was making rounds in the EU:
https://analyticalsciencejournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dta.3866
Smoking on something with a reactive terminal alkene is just asking for trouble!!!
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It sounds like an odd way to put it. But it may resemble methyl heptyl variants that Adams worked with in the 1940’s. I am guessing it may be a Full Agonist for the CB1 receptor , and as such a dangerous drug, as all full agonists are. IMHO. Now whether Euphorinol is really this compound I don’t know; and what is being passed off as Euphorinol in Europe?. but I am sure our "friendlies " from the other side of the pond know. In detail so to speak.
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EU has always had a problem with synthetic cannabinoids so it doesnt suprise me shit like this is coming from over there. EU has synthetic cannabinoid clinics like the US has opiod clinics, i had a friend tell me one time about how he and his dad got addicted to HU210 and he couldnt eat or sleep without it. He bought it from China as bonzai fertilizer, and tried it with his dad. They smoked it once and got addicted, he said it was so potent he would black out and pass out when consuming it. I use to want to try hu210 till he warned me about it and then i realize it probably wasnt a good idea.
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If it is that’s fucking nuts
No wonder youd only put 3% in a vape to feel it
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These new gas station vape compounds with heptyl and dimethylheptyl side chains scare me!!!
Many of them were developed as experimental cancer drugs or even as chemical weapons!!!
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That is why I was trying to point you to Adams work in the 1940s. It is not a “single” paper it is a collection of numerous papers designed around modified cannabinoid. Killed a lot of dogs. Anyone with serious interest in the field should read them all. I have also read there was a "secrete’ chemical lab in England doing similar experiments at the same time. Apparently there was a certain dispute over “priority” concerning the active compounds. The dog story with the high dose methylheptyl analogues, injections …was something like: Immediate cataleptic state for like 8 hrs, seemed to recover after 24 hrs or so, fine for 3 days and dropped dead on the next. Vague recollection…you have to read these strange lists. Good luck with the EUN.
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