Does EPN really exist?

Who here has actually worked with EPN (Euphorinol)?

Has anyone seen legitimate analytical data or independent test results on it?

I’ve been hearing mixed things—some people are saying it’s a real novel cannabinoid, while others claim it’s completely made up or just a marketing name with no verified chemical identity. I’ve also seen bulk “distillate” being advertised around $5,300/kg.

Has anyone had a reputable lab characterize it? NMR, LC-MS/MS, GC-MS, or any other independent analysis?

Curious to hear from people who’ve actually tested or formulated with it rather than just marketing claims.

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It definitely is a thing but its just one of 3 new cannabinods that are released. For instance EPN is the same long last sativa effect as thcx, cbdx, etc etc these new cannabinoids are purposely hidden with no real info due to the constant banning of cannabinods and new ones having to be made.

Until cannabis gets fully legalized globally these products will prevail. In europe they are fair more prevalent than usa however they are making there way over here.

Anyone close to the top of the supply chain knows you are not allowed to do NMR analysis on these compounds if your want them.

At the end of the day the market chooses what to accept and these cannabinods are very much sought after in places where thc and hhc and no longer available.

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Appreciate the insight.

If NMR isn’t allowed, what analytical data can buyers use to verify they’re actually receiving EPN and not another cannabinoid or a blend? Is there at least LC-MS, HRMS, GC-MS, or a reference standard available?

If it’s being sold as a single compound for ~$5,300/kg, I’d expect some way to verify its identity beyond the supplier’s word.

Has anyone here actually had an independent lab characterize it?

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There isnt standards for these compounds which is why they are non detects. Spectral fingerprints in Slovenia or Slovakia apparently has a method.

Again that is the whole point regulators need to do a lot more work to ban it. If they dont even have standards it gives far more time to the manufacturers.

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tetrahydromethylisopentyl-ethylcannabinol according to the folks who make the cheech and chong vapes

who knows how legitimate this is, Gilded extracts isn’t one I’d put much faith in

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How many accounts are you gonna make to try and scam people here?

“Thevaultlabs” = cameroonian AI scammer

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Hmm. Thanks for sharing.

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Big news! According to the latest update from this open investigation, the psychoactive substance found in products marketed under names such as EPN, STV, HPC, T9HC, DNT9, TAC, Sativanol, “Super Sativa”, “Superior Blend” and likely many others that do not specify their active ingredients in their COAs, has been identified. The compound is THO (Δ⁸ and/or Δ⁹-THC butanenitrile oxime), a potent semi-synthetic cannabinoid derived from THC via an oxime modification. These are not “spice” (synthetic indole/indazole carboxamides). They are a new class of potent semi-synthetic cannabinoids, with high affinity for CB1 receptors, but with no human safety studies available.

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So it is a short lasting compound?

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov interesting. ez process

As for the effects, yes

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Legal ! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Bros all this stuff or most of it coming out new novel is leftover synthesis papers US and various European country’s Germany Netherlands Italy and others creating first synthesis of in the 40’s through the 60’s they just rebranded and that substance bucks you up right to moon I had it in gummies no it dont last long but in edibles I couldn’t stop laughing for 30 minutes straight got kicked out my therapy session because of it I know it was retarded that was right after pandemic where I was in dark place but its weak sauce on it own but blended with d9 its suposed to allow it to target seratonin more but TBH its mostly being used as cut in the fake Xanax

PM if you want that full paper

I like to see the full paper please

j.bmc.2018.08.003_Oximes short-acting CB1 receptor agonists.pdf (1.8 MB)

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This doesn’t correspond to the long lasting effects though.