Distillate process help please!

It didn’t sound like they were successful.

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no i didnt say that, however this is somewhat true yes. when i ran the first and 2nd batch from the same starting material the first time i ran my Hm to 160c than had to set down due to unforeseen other problems. i did it again (2nd time) and ramped a lil quicker from 120c to 155c, than continued my normal ly process of increaing HM by 2c every time the pv catches my sv

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That green is some of the last of your terps coming off. You’ll usually have a little bit of clear stuff that looks and acts like thc, but isn’t, and then your main body

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Go high guy

Just keep increasing temperature until stuff spits out.

I also highly recommend a vacuum jacket on your column. Or wrap that whole mf-er in a few layers of tinfoil.

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Yup. Tinfoil is good. HFS sells an insulated flask jacket that’s very affordable.

I’ve used fireplace mantle wick THEN foiled the shit out of it when not distilling in a “suitable atmosphere”.

Dress that bitch up like she’s headed out into the worst snowstorm Hoth has ever seen.

@yourmom247 make it a standard practice that when someone says it’s been winterized, assume it’s not. Take 10ml and mix with warmed methanol and float it. That’ll tell you for sure.

This has been standard practice for me after watching people get burnt on “winterized” product.

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Don’t trust anything anyone tells you about oil or biomass. ALWAYS assume they are lying until the test results say otherwise. I’ve heard the term “trust but verify”, fuck that. “Verify, verify, verify. Trust your lab that verifies.*. But only after extensive cross verification…

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Verify, but verify. Then verify the verificaiton.

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I had to verify my verification process so I could verify that my verification process could properly be verified.

Still waiting on results….

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That’s the worst part😂

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Oh shit. Peer validation of the verification!

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THIS ^^^^ 100%!

you can boil water in a paper cup over an open flame…

do you understand the implications?

if you’ve got (eg) water in there, the temp is 100C. no matter how hot it is on the other side of the paper.

doesn’t matter what you MANTLE temperature is. it is the temperature of what you’re BOILING in your flask.

without vacuum, THC boils in the range of 420C.

see what happens if you’re not sucking hard enough (you’ve got leaks)?!?

You are NOT going to hit your boiling point (reduce it to whatever temp you’re stopping at and giving up).

so your THC WILL NOT BOIL. which make it really hard to get it into the condensor…

if your mantle is LYING TO YOU about the temp, you also won’t hit your boiling point.

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you and your damn tinfoil hats…

:rofl: :joy: :rofl:

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Did someone say tin foil?

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one needs to Validate ones verification process…but that’s another topic :wink:

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show us where you have temp probes.

if you’re ONLY using the thermocouple in the mantle, then the issue is you need to go higher than your desired boiling point in order to REACH your boiling point.

ideally you’d grok that deltaT is required for heat exchange.

this might help: Heat Transfer L32 p1 - Log Mean Temperature Difference - YouTube

ok, your mantle SAYS it’s at 200C.
why would your boiling flask be? (evaporative cooling?!?)
is glass a great conductor? (nope!)
have you any independent way of validating that 200C?

try boiling water in it at atmosphere to truly wrap your head around this one!!!

bet you’ll have to go above 100C to get the job done…and will get there WAY faster if you set the mantle to 200C (try setting it at 100C and 200C. note where it actually gets)

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Yes a topic worth exploring certainly

ok i get what your trying to explain, would you happen to have any tips or tricks/advice other than your stated comparison to boiling water…?

thank you for your time, im not being a smart ass. i appreciate the help greatly.

I can heat the mantle to red hot. What temp will the water in there be as it boils at atmosphere?

Not about boiling water…but it IS about BOILING.

This is the part you need to wrap your head around. Shows the boiling point at various vac levels…

Can you explain how that is relevant?

Can you use it to guesstimate the upper bound on your boiling flask temp if your vac gauge was correct?

Did you answer any of my questions?!?

Eg:Where are your temp probe(s)?
How do you know the temp in your flask?

Did you watch the lecture on deltaT

What temp SHOULD water boil?

How could use that to confirm or deny that your mantle agrees with the rest of us on that subject?

Doing so will ALSO demonstrate how the mantle temp and the boiling flask differ.

Set the mantle temp to 100C, and see how long it takes to boil.

Set it to 200C and do the same test.

Unless you truly understand that, I suggest you try it, so that you do understand it.

Because distillation is about boiling THEN about condensation. you didn’t get your cannabinoids hot enough to boil, and you need to understand why (or not, you could just turn the heat up and it will work…)

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that pic is gold. it’s so beautiful I just printed it out to tape to my wall.

I mean, you could sing them the song of Clausius and Clapeyron but I digress

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