Distillate at home storage, preventing oxidation? Using water in the headspace of jars?

Turns out you can make a lava lamp with disty and near boiling water…

Haven’t figured out why one might do this, perhaps to deodorize?

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I’ve actually tried to make a DIY lava lamp liquid system.
I ended up making a working solution from a mixture of various oils in my garage and paraffin candle wax. Took about 30 different mixtures till I found something that behaved the way I wanted it to. :crazy_face:

Now I want to add something that’s chemiluminescent.

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So for argon do you spray in jar out lid on and then vac seal it in a oven? Or am I missing something?

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Argon is heavier than air, so if your slowly “pour” it into the head space of your container you can just cap it.

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I’ve used near boiling water to remove PG from a bad mixture of crude/PG. The odd effect of this hot water wash and sep. Funnel cleansing gave me some really nice single pass distillate.

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@spdking seems to concur

I don’t see the need for vacuum and blanket gas I usually pull a vacuum on my Mason jars or use n2 for blanket gas but not both.

When long term storing food like rice and beans we would pop a piece of dry ice in our mylar bags let the co2 fill the headspace before we seal with an o2 absorber.

Anyway this thread is about the use of distilled water on top of your distillate to keep it from reacting to Atmos. We do this with guacamole and avocados to keep it green and not to oxidize.

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Do you think distilled water in the headspace of a mason jar would have a negative effect on distillate? Would it help slow the color change from distillate oxidizing when reacting to Atmos?

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yeah sorry. read your post & I added water to the jar…then for reasons I can’t fathom I decided to microwave it. :crazy_face:

seems like it might be a win.
at least for that jar. :thinking:

as for protecting from oxidation, yes, it should keep O2 out, and I don’t believe it will cause you any major grief.

popping and sputtering on the nail might be an issue, but it should pour right off if you’re storing in the fridge.

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I’m pretty lazy so finding a simpler way to store distillate is intriguing. Pouring a few mm of distilled water on top and throwing my distillate in the fridge is pretty fucking lazy lol. But I am opening this jar daily sometimes multiple times a day to mix various batches of vape orders

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The microwave was an interesting addition haha

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Water carries dissolved oxygen. And your oil is not pure so terpenes polyphenols lipids etc react. Try it and youll find out.

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doing so…

Can we use helium to back-fill vs argon or l2? I have a helium tank I used to find spd leaks (it’s really not needed).

How long does this work?

Seems like it would slow down oxidation, not stop it.

There is dissolved oxygen in water. I have a DO meter.

Hot water holds less dissolved oxygen. At 100C it can’t really hold any. I wonder if you could use steam to fill the headspace…would that be enough water after it condenses?

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I’m pretty sure helium will leak out of a mason jar. Plus you’d have to fill it upside down since it’s less dense than air. Other storage vessels though, maybe…

Mason jars really don’t seal all that well unless under vacuum, which is what they’re designed for. I remember trying to carbonate beer in them back in the day and it ended up being a terrible idea. Hell, they’re really not even any good to store carbonated beverages in. In college we tried to save all the beer from a keg party by pouring into mason jars. The beer went totally flat within 48 hours.

Edit: On second thought, maybe you could keep the helium in it by storing the jar upside down? :thinking:

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yes i dont think it stops oxidation but i do think it slows it down significantly

well for guac ive kept an open container of the shit in the fridge for 2 weeks without it turning brown. keeping open guac past 2 weeks in the fridge is pushing it lol.

Four common techniques for the removal of dissolved oxygen from water have been examined: boiling at 1 atm, boiling under reduced pressure, purging with N(2) and sonication under reduced pressure. After treatment, the residual oxygen in solution was analysed by the Winkler method. Nitrogen purging for 20-40 min at flow rate of 25 mL/s was found to be the most effective oxygen removal method. Boiling at 1 atm was found to be the least effective. None of the techniques evaluated here lead to complete removal of oxygen. The concentration of residual dissolved oxygen after purging for 20-40 minutes with nitrogen is 0.2-0.4 ppm.

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Nice! Thanks for sharing that bit about wine saver argon

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I’m testing 2 jars stored in the fridge right now. 1 has a few mm of distilled water on top. Another one has the headspace filled with an argon, co2, n2 mix used in wine storage. The first experiment yielded a sop and I witnessed no darkening over a weeks time. I would dump the water out after pulling from the fridge. After shaking and getting as much water out as I can I used a new cheap hair dryer set to cold no heat and wedged it in the top to quick dry the top layer. Took about 5 mins and the water was fully evaporated off the top of the hard distillate.

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I started using the Food Saver w/Mason jar adapter. Sealing takes like 10 seconds, if that

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