i chill my 30# solvent tank in slurry, inj coil in same, ,material column and collection, yes staying small makes it fairly easy for me.
I havent tried not chilling collection, id rather keep it all cold, use my N2, and when a small amount of heat is needed , I can get the solvent to go where I need it to
My idea is it moves easily on small scale, at lower pressures and temps, with small amount of n2 or heat, purge as necessary
The incoming gas cools the collection down quite rapidly. It’s not suggested but I just got tired of having to do it. Psi on the collection stays at 0 until the nitrogen finally gets to it.
I’ve thought about this, and haven’t looked into it , the thought of a warm vessel, how much pressure do you push with this way?
20psi. As soon as cold gas gets there it’s chilling it down. Not to -80 but cold enough at that point. And I don’t chill my solvent tank ever. Just using the coils. Way easier for weighing injection and recovery weight when the dry ice isn’t sublimating on the scale as well
Im sure i am overkilll, I’ll modify when I figure it out, I don’t want to have to use high pressures of n2 , 20-30psi I’m good, but no crc though
you were asking @TwistedStill
Yeah, if you’re gas is super cold 20-30 psi will def do the trick. If I crc, I’ll roll it up to 30-40psi, depending on flow
I run passive, you run passive with warm tank, i’m confused, and recovery?
I run from a warm tank into 100’ of injection coils.
I recover back through the 100’ of coil, so then the solvent thats in the tank is -70 to -80c sitting ready for the next pass. Then it goes back through the same 100’ of coil again on the next injection.
So it eats a lot of dry ice on the first pass, but second it’s negligible
That’s how I roll too
With no crc, I’ll use 30-40 psi. The pressure in the collection only rises when nitrogen gets into it, so I am able to use the nitro push to move most my butane into the warm collection. After burping nitro through my solvent tank, I isolate the material column from the collection, and apply a heating pad to the top half to the spool. While recovery is taking place, the heat pad warms the material column…the top half anyway…and creates positive pressure. With this pressure I burp the remaining tane into the collection.
I do like the idea of a coil though. I run a 10 lb stainless solvent tank. Its convenient enough to chill with dry ice and acetone. But if I step to a 25 lb tank I’ll have to run coils as chilling a 25 lb tank isnt really an easy feat for me.
I think that’s where the line is between being able to chill the tank efficiently in a slurry vs needing the coil. You can definitely do it, it’s just takes more dry ice and time to get that entire 25lb tank chilled.
Exactly. Fuck the wait…coil for the win lol.
I just can’t justify going to a 25lb tank. This is a hobby. It produces 0 income…I make meds for myself…so I want to play with bigger toys like most of you play with…but there isn’t a logical reason to do so. My capital is best spent on other shit…like a bulldozer or baby paraphernalia.
Just saying, I built a coil for 85 dollars. If you want you could always go that route with your 10lb tank
isee, well i use a 30# solvent tank, it may well be a 25#, the vendor said 30, i bury in dry ice and iso , i never take it out during any runs, i will sometimes only dry ice the solvent tank and use my coil in slurry w iso, as well as my column, slight temp differential my coil is 12" above my column so as some gravity may help with flooding, i use as little n2 as possible, usually pre charge my tank to +20psi from a full vacd tank with at least 8lbs of solvent in it
glad there’s someone else out there doing it on the 1-2 lb rig, good stuff fellas
Where did op go? Did he have some better results? @Infuzion11
Nobody has mentioned the size and shape of your recovery/collection pot.
Tall and skinny gives more surface area to the solvent and recovers faster (6x36 jacketed spool) Short and fat (12×16 jacketed spool) gives you slower recovery
I have short and fat so if possible I start recovering before I fill up the collection pot with solvent. I try to fill it 10-20% and then recover at a rate that keeps it that full as I keep dumping more solution from the dewax/crc. When its dialed in i get more runs per day (using more dry ice because im recovering twice as long now per run) coupled with a slow flow thru the CRC to get max CR
That’s where I’m at too, I want to upgrade to a stainless steel solvent tank, but don’t really need to. The 6# tank and the cooling coil I have now works well enough, but i don’t like having a carbon steel tank for solvent storage.
But at some point it just becomes a waste of money just because I want to play with a new toy lol.
Gotta balance the hobby with life, and it sucks balls!
how do you build your coil so cheap?
Stainless wart chillers off Amazon. 50’ for $65
It’s probably more like 120 by the time I’m said and done, but that’s with 2- compression fittings, 2 valves as well a few stainless parts and a pressure gauge.
Depending on valve price, the sky’s the limit for the final product