Delta 8 legality in non medical/rec states

I think you wanted me to specify THC?

Marijuana does not = Cannabis?

maybe you are from another country without fancy name for THC? In the USAā€¦

cannabis = marijuana AND hemp
marijuana = THC over 0.3% total
hemp = THC under 0.3% total

(not withstanding state specific laws regarding D9 vs total)

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You canā€™t ration with this guy, he will just copy and post FDA regulations.

What national billion dollar industry elephant that exists in the room?

The FDA regulates FOOD and DRUGS. Nothing else. You donā€™t know what you are talking about and Iā€™ll end it there because I could care less what YOU THINK the laws are.

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If youā€™re really trying to get technical, CBD extracted from ā€œMarijuanaā€ is still illegal federally, thusā€¦ CBD = Illegal!!

Alsoā€¦ none of those are correct definitions. Hemp / Cannabis is the plant, Marijuana is the resinous buds.

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You are arguing semantics, they are all the same thing

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friend, you said ā€œCannabis is still federally illegal. Schedule 1.ā€

I respectfully dispute that with 100% of my beingā€¦

CBD extracted from marijuana is still marijuana.
CBD extracted from hemp is still hemp.

and thereforeā€¦ marijuana and hemp are not the same.
and thereforeā€¦ marijuana is a controlled schedule 1

and thereforeā€¦ hemp is not a controlled substance

and in response to your recent edit: ā€œAlsoā€¦ none of those are correct definitions. Hemp / Cannabis is the plant, Marijuana is the resinous buds.ā€

It bears emphasis that this rule does not alter Federal law with regard to the definition of hemp or marihuana. As stated above, the 2018 Farm Bill defines hemp as the plant species Cannabis sativa L. and any part of that plant, including the seeds thereof and all derivatives, extracts, cannabinoids, isomers, acids, salts, and salts of isomers, whether growing or not, with a delta-9 THC of not more than 0.3 percent on a dry weight basis. Likewise, the Federal (CSA) definition of marihuana continues to include those parts of the cannabis plant as specified in 21 U.S.C. 802 (and derivatives thereof) that contain more than 0.3 percent delta-9 THC on a dry weight basis. The foregoing provisions of Federal law remain in effect for purposes of Federal criminal prosecutions as well as Federal civil and administrative proceedings arising under the CSA. However, for purposes of this rule ( i.e., for purposes of determining the obligations of licensed hemp growers under the applicable provisions of the 2018 Farm Bill), the term ā€œacceptable hemp THC levelā€ is used to account for the uncertainty in the test results.

I am attaching a link to the definition of hemp and marijuana in federal law for your convenienceā€¦ Federal Register :: Establishment of a Domestic Hemp Production Program

For this reason, Iā€™m out.

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you said ā€œYou are arguing semantics, they are all the same thingā€

strongly disagree sirā€¦

one is illegal and federally controlled.
the other is legal and not federally controlled.

if I have made a mistake, please show me how I can fix it. thank you sir.

They are all the same plant. When said plant(s) have a certain levels of a certain cannabinoid it is put in one of those categories by the US government. Itā€™s still all Cannabis.

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They are the same ā€œspeciesā€ yesā€¦ they are not all the same ā€œplantā€ noā€¦

For this reason, the US government created two words to differentiate between legal and illegal varieties of the same plant species.

Those two legal words are hemp and marijuana. They are defined in state and federal laws.

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add terpenes and call it ā€œair freshenerā€.
label ā€œnot for human consumptionā€

precedent: synthetic cannabinoids sold as ā€œbath saltsā€ā€¦

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That would probably work ā€“ but as an edible - anything labeled ā€œnot for human consumptionā€ wonā€™t get near my nit picky pie hole :zipper_mouth_face: :zipper_mouth_face:

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Summary of thread: :face_vomiting:

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Ill just leave these here

There are atleast 2 exemptions that make any isomer of cbd except d9 legal

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If that were a genuinely open loop-hole, then D9-THC (all THC isomers are CBD isomers) would be effectively legalized for trade and transport across the coterminous USA. I am not saying it is NOT a loopholeā€¦ just that itā€™s probably a bad idea to use it with massive quantities of THC, at least without an exceptionally good attorney willing to take it all the way to a Supreme Court of the state!

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Any issues selling your d8 yet?

And what is your defense against the assertation that any d8, regardless of source, is substantially similar to d9, and therefore a controlled substance?

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Iā€™m no lawyer and donā€™t advocate for either side, but the only difference between the hemp derived d8 and ā€˜illegalā€™ d8 is documentation and proof. People selling all this d8 should have a QR code on the back that proves where it came from, otherwise one can only assume it was not hemp derived and therefore illegally obtained. A little website should come up telling of what farm, batch #, etc. or something of the sort of where it came from. There you can also link all the literature outlined in this thread.

My 2 cents if ur gonna sell it.

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