You do know that Israel is not a theocratic Jewish state correct? There are other ethno religious groups in both government roles and civil life.
Israel isn’t in itself Jewish. Criticism or distrust of it, if based in dislike of Jewish people, would be misplaced. As is assumptions that dislike or distrust of Israel is based in dislike of Jewish people
Israel is a puppet “state”
I surely don’t know what the fuck a discussion about the state of israel has to do with peer reviewed research.
You realize that governments aren’t ad hoc reviewers, right?
I love how every single thread on this website derails into some ape-ass political conversation that goes nowhere.
Didn’t you guys buy hhc to sell it but upon smelling it changed your mind?
I didn’t know about HHC till he got it and it wasn’t my suggestion ever, we smelled it, it did smell like rubber, and he left a review stating as such, and from there everyone lost their minds. Bret honeygold asked for the HHC we had so he could send it to test, giving us the results in that other thread.
I think these cannabinoids should be made and researched, just not sold yet. People barely know and understand CBD, the average consumer thinks CBD is snake oil. The market isn’t ready for the isomers and the people making them don’t understand the pharmacology and pharmacokinetics of the chemicals they’re putting into other people’s bodies, whether it’s inhaled, ingested or applied topically. Research chemicals should stay in research.
Have there even been studies on the long term effects of inhaling any cannabis concentrates?
I’m thinking like modern market stuff, bho, Distillate, rosin etc
Bro, we all know smoking in any form is bad for you this is besides the point. I’m addressing every single route of administration possible with cannabinoids, and yes there is long term research on the use of general cannabinoids. There is research in what delta 9 and the other well known cannabinoids do to your body. Just because the isomer is a cannabinoid doesn’t mean it won’t have a dangerous property to it.
But to your point, sure there should be more research on dabbing and smoking too, but people don’t have to smoke it. It can be eaten, boofed, applied topically, etc.
And the effects of the drug extend past inhalation. The effects are the same (stronger or weaker) no matter the route of admin. Let’s say a new cannabinoid comes out tomorrow, it feels like THC but is more potent, has similar properties, but uh oh one of the long-term side effects is heart corrosion or something else. You wouldn’t know until it happens.
I’m just wondering what was the reason for the original purchase?
Weren’t you guys planning to sell it?
You would have to ask him yourself, none of that had anything to do with me. If anything Im the one who put the paranoia in his head and talked him out of it.
@FicklePickle
In the end it wasn’t sold and it was reviewed and sent to Bret. So you can’t really judge the morality here, boss didn’t know what the stuff was and I told him it was sketchy. End of story.
Direct studies are not always called for when the systems and analog substances are known. Computational pharmacology is a thing.
You guys decided to take a stand against it based on the smell of the lot you received. And realizing it’s pretty sketch. Just seems like you guys are forgetting you were part of the group trying to profit from the research chemicals you’re now taking a stand against.
Not that you’re defending your right to sell it. That’s clearly not the case
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None of this has anything to do with that. I’m asking a question.
I edited you doxing me
Sean and I have been texting. Him and I are good. Upon learning about his condition I had a change of heart. I’m only trying to ask you a logical question. Not trying to stir any shit
Didn’t mean to “dox” I assumed people knew your name
It’s safe to assume y’all had intentions of selling it. I’m not really reaching here, it’s a fair thing to assume. What other reason? Sean using it for cancer treatment?
That’s plausible.
Yes that certainly is plausible but it also doesn’t matter because no HHC was ever sold. Do you understand what I mean? He wasn’t educated beforehand, he didn’t talk to me about buying it before buying it, and after receiving it, it was looked into and minds were changed. I honestly don’t see a problem with that. That’s all I mean, whether or not the original intent was to sell it, it wasn’t sold and nobody got hurt. It’s better that minds were changed and I don’t think it’s hypocritical to have that change of heart due to the original misunderstanding of the chemical.
Ok well maybe be more accepting that others aren’t horrible people because they do what you guys almost did. Maybe they didn’t have the same batch or aren’t as educated.
Seems unfair to talk down on a group of people you were just a part of. That’s the connection I’m trying to make.
Not slinging any shit, not trying to fight with yah.
I hope Sean recovers and y’all make hay while the sun’s shining.
My HHC-OAc was very nice. No burnt rubber smell.
I feel you, I suppose I have been pretty condescending about it without very good reasons and for that I do sincerely apologize, but I do still stand that it shouldn’t be sold. I get people need to make money but you know my stance on where the CBD industry should really go, so much more potential with hemp that can support our society. I wish the cannabinoids were just a by product from the greater process.