Show me a drug scheduling in the last 10 years that didnt including binding sight studies
Ill wait
2000 they did fentanylâs
Iâm not very familiar but weâve yet to see the consequence.
I am not guaranteeing safety and I also donât want to get hurt.
There is an ill-defined but certainly high level of product risk that this society is willing to accept (as shown by their actions / consumption, not their words). Where does D8 fall on the spectrum?
Just peek inside your average c-store.
Determination of Appropriate Schedule
The CSA establishes five schedules of controlled substances known as schedules I, II, III, IV, and V. The CSA also outlines the findings required to place a drug or other substance in any particular schedule. 21 U.S.C. 812(b). After consideration of the analysis and recommendation of the Assistant Secretary for HHS and review of all other available data, the Administrator of the DEA, pursuant to 21 U.S.C. 811(a) and 21 U.S.C. 812(b)(1), finds that:
(1) 25I-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe, and 25B-NBOMe have a high potential for abuse that is comparable to other schedule I substances such as 2C-I, 2C-C, 2C-B, LSD and DOM;
(2) 25I-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe, and 25B-NBOMe have no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States; and
(3) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of 25I-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe, or 25B-NBOMe under medical supervision.
Based on these findings, the Administrator of the DEA concludes that 2-(4-iodo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-(2-methoxybenzyl)ethanamine (25I-NBOMe; 2C-I-NBOMe; 25I; Cimbi-5), 2-(4-chloro-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-(2-methoxybenzyl)ethanamine (25C-NBOMe; 2C-C-NBOMe; 25C; Cimbi-82), and 2-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-(2-methoxybenzyl)ethanamine (25B-NBOMe; 2C-B-NBOMe; 25B; Cimbi-36), including their optical, positional, and geometric isomers, salts and salts of isomers, whenever the existence of such salts, isomers, and salts of isomers is
Is rec / med regulation keeping D9 out of kidsâ hands?
Personally, I think it has more to do with garage chemists producing unsafe and not fully characterized crude cannabinoid mixtures, exposing themselves to high levels of solvent-laden air, muddling their presentation of cherry-picked sources, getting into repetitive defending of their positions while thinking that a few ad hominems added here and there will strengthen their argument.
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I got 'hey misterâed a few weeks ago, so itâs doing something. Couldâve been the liquor and cannabis board though 
We all oppose this.
Thatâs not how the D8 we sell is made? Awfully presumptive.
Not be definition, no. But the d9 most likely hasnât been made according to an ill-defined SOP.
I hey misterâd for booze in HS when necessary. Coming of age.
Had a buddy who walked out of Save-a-Lot with a fifth of Absolut in his pants every Friday night of high school. Stealing.
That buddy works in law enforcement now.
In making any finding under subsection (a) of this section or under subsection (b) of section 812 of this title, the Attorney General shall consider the following factors with respect to each drug or other substance proposed to be controlled or removed from the schedules:
(1) Its actual or relative potential for abuse.
(2) Scientific evidence of its pharmacological effect, if known.
(3) The state of current scientific knowledge regarding the drug or other substance.
(4) Its history and current pattern of abuse.
(5) The scope, duration, and significance of abuse.
(6) What, if any, risk there is to the public health.
(7) Its psychic or physiological dependence liability.
(8) Whether the substance is an immediate precursor of a substance already controlled under this subchapter.
#2 is takes into consideration binding site studies
Ive already posted a bunch of Info on this one too
shall consider
if known
=/= required
anyways, Iâm going to bed. We can circlejerk again later
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I buy my D8 from one of the most reputable labs in the game. I pay a premium and I donât sweat it.
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I didnât say that. You are not the ad hominemer, it seems to me you are the ad hominemee.
But itâs easy to get confused, I willingly admit that.
there affinity was tested 2 years before that law went into effect
you swear like they dont have a data base with this info in it rofl
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This whole d8 thing is super retarded, IMO.
Thereâs nothing d8 can do that d9 cannot do better. Itâs all in the dosage.
To each his own. I just feel sorry for Nature thatâs been at this forever only to have to contend with a few yearsâ worth of d8 and its sometimes rabid proponents.
You seem very level headed and able to think rationally. Consider yourself lucky, you may very well be part of a rapidly dwindling portion of humanity.
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D9 is too intense for me. Used to be fun, but now gives me panic attacks.
D8 is a nice, familiar, and soothing high with much less propensity for anxiety.
Weâre here circle jerking in this community full of stoners but I suspect the broader population will have a better time with D8 than D9.
This is tough to see because few people want to admit they canât handle the D9 intensity. I smoked for years with the boys to be social, because I liked it when it didnât give me anxiety, and because I didnât want to admit I was too soft for it.
I talk to a LOT of consumers & prospective consumers in gas stations. This personal experience resonates strongly and widely.
People assume they are an outlier if D9 doesnât vibe with their body because they know so many people that love it enough that weed is their whole life & personality, but rarely hear this account which is similar to their own.
D8 has broader appeal. Thatâs my hypothesis.
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Not everyone is trying to get high. Not everyone can tolerate D9 at any dose. D8 has a place, take your bias for it out of the equation. D8 is helping people. Maybe not you.
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Fair enough and to each their own. At least to those that can evaluate reward vs. risk.
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Calculating risk to reward is very grey with a lot of unknown variables.
Is smoking black market D9 flower certainly safer than vaping a good D8 cart from a shop with full panel results available.
The reality is that is the most typical trade-off for Americans without access to med / rec weed.
Even for many with med / rec available, itâs cost prohibitive.
Praising D9 as this holy grail that can never be de-throned is starting to sound a lot like that spongebob meme.
I oNlY sMoKe ReAl WeEd
Pearl-clutching.
Or like someone in the late 90âs who insists theyâll never need email because they have snail mail and while it takes a few days for the message to arrive, âa hand-written note is so much more personalâ.