Nothing more than conjecture and speculation, but I believe it was from the US. Something about the international war games just before it really let loose seems particularly well timed, even if it was an accident.
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Population control ?
They did, corona viruses are most typically linked to bats, thats not new news.
Coronavirus is a class of virus . There is no known bat with covid 19 further the closes bat cave to wuhan is over 1000 miles
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COVID-19 is from an American branch of the viral tree. Technically, the differences between the American and Asian versions are different enough that they basically exist on separate trees.
And @Saucysanchez775, the lack of proximal bat activity does not preclude it coming from a bat in the city of Wuhan. The market some suspect it came from is known to carry them as well as all manner of animal.
Again, though, I donāt believe an infected bat started this pandemic.
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I mean, I have no hill to die on here, people in level 3-4 labs are always trying to play with new ways to kill us, equally likely to me, nature is trying to kill us too.
We populated the planet pretty heavily. Itās not beyond me that we could sustain a horrible cause for loss of life either naturally, or of our own devices.
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I do consider however. And I would posit the point. Corona viruses have been a problem for the 21st century as a whole, we had our first scare back in 03
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That paper I shared said that USA was planning a level 4 lab in Kansas and a paper report put chances of a lab leak at 70% over 50 years so ya it happens and it could have been a accident it could have been on purpose
It could have been another country trying to some drama who knows
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you mentioned trating symtoms. Most people are completly ignorant that the vaccine only does the same. it doesnt prevent you getting covid at all. It limits how bad it gets. and probably limits how much you may spread it if you were ever in public settings during the epidemic. PANDEMIC is a scare word used by govt and media. It sounds scary but it means nothing if you arent travelling.
I mean, if I worked in a lab, Iād be eating sammiches after a long day juggling potentially lethal bugs around too. 
@thumper yeah dude, itās the most effective way we have to treat it, doesnāt cure you from the chance, but at least it gets your WBC to acknowledge it and have a defense, and can actually keep you from full infection, off label use of medications is NOT going to be as effective. Medications work best when youāve already been infected, or if there isnāt a vaccine.
I still think itās equally plausible however that corona viruses just replicated a bunch of times in their hosts, until a protein changed, and we were the unfortunate apes itās a problem to.
Bat populations are every bit as concentrated where they are as we are, so it is literally a matter of time.
Iād ask you guys the next question, what was SARS then?
What about mad cow? We literally created that one, by increasing and forcing populations of cattle together and making the breeding ground.
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early last year the FIRST covid patient was in the hospital like 3 miles away. I was playing poker and this lady was a worker at the hospital Just wasting space post. hopefully i got it asymptomatic. poker spreads corona/colds like crazy
Even back in 2004 the gubment was trying to figure out what to do with the idiots when an outbreak happened.
I posted a proper source, so it counts.
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You can even get it on Amazon lol
For now
Just be careful and donāt be one of these guys. And from henceforth, I shall stfu, I enjoyed this talk guys.
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Yeah hard to tell what really happened. Most likely accidental and origin in China obviously as they were first to do a major lockdown before the west even was getting wind of the damn virus. This article about only American from WHO to go investigate just shows its likely too late to know for sure what really happened doesnt really matter anyways virus is here now
Also food for thought the recent comments of the effectiveness of CBDP in other thread and this thread had me thinking about the terpene + CBD studies early on. Just made me wonder what the results might have been using CBDP + terpenes instead.
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The tests have been proven to give wayy too many false positives. Huge narrative here. Iām sure you are very good at reading data. My hunch is telling me you are not reading the real numbers tho. Thatās the issue, we are given extremely false numbers to work with.
You seem busy. Seems like you probably havenāt been deep down the rabbit holes.
The guy who invented the PCR tests straight up says they are BS. He conveniently āDiedā 3 month before the pandemic took off.
Hereās one of Borris Johnson talking about only a 7% accuracy rate with the tests.
Apparently with the PCR tests they are supposed to be done at a very low cycle. And still produce extremely large amounts of false positives. The govt demands the tests to be done at very high cycles.
Flu cases down ā98%ā being pushed heavily throughout all media platforms. The flu symptoms + false positives could never lead someone to believe they had covid. That data would āneverā be put into the system as a patient having covid.
Flu disappeared while admitting to a huge amount of false positives. Basic logic thereās a massive agenda here. Iām sure you are very good at what you do. This is just the first inch of the tip of the iceburg. You are reading the data correctly. You are just being given extremely wrong numbers to work with.
Here is a good scientific study and review that address myocarditis in young men getting the vaccine.
Table 3 shows odds data. Itās kind of hard to interpret, but basically there is just barely a detectable effect above baseline. The baseline being 1-10 people will get this disease out of 100,000 every year regardless of COVID or vaccine etc.
Itās important to note that this disease is typically temporary (ie, it goes away) and not lethal. Another important point brought up by the authors is that ā1% of highly fit athletes with mild COVID-19 infection have evidence of myocarditis on cMRI.ā (citations 13, 14 in this paper).
So thatās saying if you get COVID you have a 1 in 100 chance of potential cardiac disorder vs 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50,000 chance from getting the mRNA vaccine. I only place bets on really good odds, and thatās why I am glad I got the vaccine!
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Good thing Iām not a highly fit athlete
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its a learning thing. I dont think anyone reading is taking the stuff at face value- you read it research it and come to your own conclusions.
Thankfully someone said it. Scientific literacy goes a lot further than establishing someone managed to get published.
Anyone down to take some oleandrin for their COVID19? The pillow guy showed me some studies that said it wasnāt a well known toxin. Itās gotta be legit, who would publish shoddy articles (for money??? perish the thought!)
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