Communicating to Budtenders

Whether strains are sativa indica or hybrid is a marketing ploy?

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Its REFFFER

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At this point in the genetic history of cannabis…yes. Most are hybrids of hybrids. Find some land race shit and now we are talking.

For example…indica or sativa disty carts with botanical terps. Get da fuck out lol

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Well yeah that’s a no brainer, disty is disty. But the thought that indica sativa hybrid, is all a ploy is false. At this point everything is a fucking mess. But 10 yrs ago, that wasn’t the case.

There’s no way of discerning it other that the specific high from that specific strain.

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It’s obviously not a myth.

But go look at the packaging and tell me that it’s not used for marketing. When someone asks me for an indica or sativa extract…I tell them they’ll have to go somewhere else for all that. We sell dabs round here. THCa and terpenes in various forms. I’m not kidding. I tell them to go to a store. Or if a sharpie is within reach, I write what they asked for on the jar lid in front of them and tell them I have exactly what they are looking for.

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That’s what I’m getting at.

I agree now a days it’s everywhere. Now a days the strains at the store don’t say, and I don’t ask. As long as it smells and tastes good

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The placebo effect is very powerful

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Absolutely. The University of Boulder has done some digging into this. Here’s a link to the research they have done on the genomic mapping of cannabis. Basically we in the industry like to make definitive conclusions based on phenotypes, however our understanding of the actual genotypes we produce is very muddy and misconstrued. Diversity and evolution of the repetitive genomic content in Cannabis sativa - PubMed

Basically nothing is truly indica, sativa, or ruderalis unless it is a naturally occurring land race variety. Everything else we’ve bred is technically a hybrid. No one who crosses cannabis strains truly understands anything in regards to the genome of the plant they’ve bred. You understand what phenotypic characteristics the parents had, but the genotype is still uncertain. Sure you can say “its 50% purple whatever and 50% chem” but that says nothing about what genes passive/recessive and what actually got passed over to the offspring (genotype). So when someone claims they have a cross thats 60% indica 40% sativa it really means absolutely nothing.

No scientific evidence supports the dichotomy of indica and sativa on a molecular level when it comes to modern day cannabis sold in dispensaries.

Since there is no scientific evidence that supports that distinction, how would it be reasonable to assume Indica will make you “sleepy” while sativa does the opposite when those classifications are anecdotal guesses from the breeder at best.

Not trying to rain on anyone’s parade, but I would say the best classifications we could make would be the more modern type 1-5 classifications, because at least those can be linked back to synthase genes that are actually expressed by the plant, and not just grower hearsay (not to shit on any skilled breeders out there).

It’s very irresponsible to make medicinal claims of energy or lethargy for different strains IMO. Everyone is effected by cannabis differently. Also the placebo effect is very real, and simply telling someone something is an indica may produce a sleepy effect regardless of the genomic expressions of the plant. However that doesn’t make it right IMO.

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You just schooled me over here bro. I love it. I 100% agree with what you said.

I guess marketing ploy to me rubs elbows with being a lie. In this case its more so incredibly dumbed downed for the layman. Average consumer just wants to understand what they’re buying.

Appreciate the knowledge. :call_me_hand:

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Very welcome my man!

and maybe “marketing ploy” is a bit harsh to be applied to all cases.

It’s more like growers giving their best guess at what they think accurately describes the effects, flavor, and overall experience from the strain they produced. However we must realize this evidence is only anecdotal.

If active target compounds can’t be associated directly with the genomic expressions of the pant, then it’s hard to classify strains and their unique effects with hard scientific backing.

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Here is a gift we give our budtenders. Plus, we have a budtender portal on our website that provides education, COAs, dispenary assests etc.

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Is that a loupe?

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ya… they love it. and the other is a prism. goes in hand wth our Brand.

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What would drive me insane is when a gummy company like kushy punch would come into the dispensary and tell us they have all these different types of gummies

(nighttime, daytime, hybrid, boner enhancement, etc)

And ALL THE FUCKING GUMMIES HAD THE SAME INGREDIENTS

They were ALL just distillate, and different food coloring. If you looked at the ingredients… asked multiple times how the ingredients differ and they would say things like “that was a sativa distillate” :man_facepalming:.

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I agree. This case is definitely just a marketing ploy trying to get you to by more gummies and consume all day.

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I can’t count how many times I’ve had wook tenders tell me the disty is sativa or indica :joy::joy::joy:

@YYCMMJ thats honestly dope! Im sure that makes their year!

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really i gotta know what’s the prism do?

Please “enlightening” me literally

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kalidescopenug

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Rainbow Nugs

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Prism is totally novelty to play with.

We used that rainbow/light ‘symbol’ as an equivalent/representation of our cannabis. A rare sighting that occurs daily just as our cannabis is— marketing ppl… but, everyone loves it so far.

And the tenders do act like it’s Christmas when they see the scope.

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