Micro is 2150sq ft canopy space and standard lp has no limit at all.
It’ll be faster and easier and cheaper to get certified with an ethanol system, because there aren’t any high pressure vessels.
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do check with local regulations/land regs, some have a max volume on explosive materail on site.
or maximum pressures, as @Lincoln20XX meantioned.
A large company in Alberta can’t utilize their 100L system due to such regulations.
Yeah what province/municipality you’re in can make a big difference. I’ve dealt with ABSA previously, I would not want to cert a hydrocarbon system in AB unless I had an army of engineers under me to generate paper to throw at them.
The primary magic number is 15 psi / 1 bar. Stay under this and you’re (generally) not a pressure vessel… Aka WAY cheaper.
In canada, legal + hydrocarbons [edit: butane/propane] adds up to cost numbers that have two commas in them.
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That’s what I expected, I might have to get setup with ethanol to get running, but I for sure want to get setup with butane once I get some cash flow, there’s zero good extracts on the legal market.
I see the precision x10 mse is approved for use in canada, but I’m sure the price tag matches that approval.
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Magic 8-ball tells me you could probably get a system custom designed, manufactured, and certified for less than they are likely charging for it. Haven’t seen pricing on that system, but I’ve seen other stuff from them and it’s not where I’d throw my dollars.
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Due to living in 'berta. i have connections to oil and gas manufaturing facilites… that create stuff for that industry… and can easily, with plans/direcitons, create anythting you need to use in a regulated markert.
but… will cost ya, and maybe not as much as precision bad boy
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Yup totally useless
When did they make that change?
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If you’re an extraction primary business, that’s correct. If you’re formulating high-end cosmetic or medical products, 150 million mg goes a fair ways - it’s not a billion dollar business, but definitely enough to keep a handful of people very comfortable.
Even with the small size grow it’ll be what they are charging for extracts it would still be worth setting up in the future. I think I’m going to look into ethanol to get up and running and maybe make edibles. I would like to try and be one of the first ones making bho out my way.
its been like this since they introduce Micro Processing.
here is the website the data is found on.
Search Micro Processing, its like the 4th one.
Run heptane, hexane or pentane, winterize and LLE back to hydrocarbon.
No pressure vessels needed
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Was about to say the same thing! You can still do hydrocarbon extraction without a close loop on a large scale.
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I’ll have to do some reading into this.
I should have clarified, I’ll edit the original post. I was speaking about gaseous hydrocarbons - butane, propane and their ilk - as that’s what most people mean when they’re asking about closed loop hydrocarbon extraction.
Liquid hydrocarbons do not necessarily require pressure rated systems, but may include them depending on the design parameters.
They can still be more of a pain than a bog standard ethanol system from a safety perspective though.
We’re going to be 100% closed loop, though we’re running liquid. Safer that way. And more efficient in some ways.
We’re currently dancing the safety dance as hard as we can, and are hopeful we might even be able to get a non-C1D2 rating for our extraction room.
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Hire an engineer and architect to design that facility right or end up fixing mistakes for as long as you operate there.
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The investors will say:
“But that costs too much money, you can get a license without any of that fancy stuff and fix it out of revenue after we’re paid back!”
… And the cycle continues.
But I 100% agree. There’s a reason that these facilities are generally quoted as starting around 8 figures and moving upwards. Doing it right isn’t cheap, even before you add in the green tax. You could probably do a micro for high six to low seven figures with the right team and location.
However, if you don’t want to get taken on the financial ride of your life, you need the RIGHT engineering team - mechanical, process, and electrical at a minimum - and the RIGHT architect. You also need a competent code consultant, and a construction and electrical installation team that’s used to working in classified and preferably cannabis spaces.
The above is to find, especially if you don’t already have someone on staff to knows enough to vet those providers, and then call out the consultants if they’re talking out their asses.
Playing in the legal space means you need to do it right. Doing it right is difficult. Difficult means expensive if you don’t have the ability to do a lot of this stuff in-house.
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I have mechanical, electrical, and structural engineer and a separate hvac engineer. They are designing the whole build and I’m going to do the work with no contractors so that will save a ton, where I live there’s plenty of highly skilled trades people available so that’s not an issue, I bought the building for 300k and it comes with a 1500 sq ft building next door as you can see in the plans that will be our nursery so I will not need to waste any of our canopy space in the micro.
So far I have zero investors and I’m doing this all on my own, I currently own the building and I have money lined up from a local bank for all the renovations, we will be putting a lot of the money towards hvac.
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Sounds like you’re on the right track. I wish you the best of luck.
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Yeah I must have missed it then. I knew the 600kg limit, which is pathetic.