Butane Contaminant Demystified

Far from it. I was absolutely destroyed by fast crash issues before I started filtering my gas, crashing inside my system every run no matter what I tried to do. I was evacuating 1/2 tanks of gas every week and starting with fresh gas in my system just to get a my solution to stay liquid in the system. It would still fast crash after pour EVERY TIME.

I started filtering my gas through 13x and AA and have not had a crash inside my system since. The processing SOP has stayed exactly the same.

Its definitely not a 100% fix but it will make the situation bearable.

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Does it make it de-mistified? haha I like what you did there…

Yes I tried but our technical consultant wants to integrate H2O via different, more direct?, ways. So we’ve been working on both a venting/bubble design which is cost-effective and easy to do for now to see if we can gain any results, but also the other as a water wash setup, hopefully simple and still cost effective-ish using a certain type of mixing valve, and an SOP to regenerate the required ā€œconsumablesā€ā€¦ hypothetical at this time, but since information continues to sentiment proprietary design works, we just haven’t bothered talking about it publicly…

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I don’t get how certain techniques work for some but not others, also the fact that I’ve now seen a few companies use ā€œMedusaā€ as a sales pitch makes me feel some type of way about things. Not talking shit just saying something things are kinda weird to me.

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Many different proprietary amines in use from various mfgs causing different results is my guess

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Agreed. Not to mention I’ve found acetone and pentane in large quantities also in my butane just in the last few weeks. I don’t know how much a little pentane would effect things but I can tell you alcohols at even tiny amounts can have pretty large differences in crashing/end product.

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Hey, those weed guys think they know wtf is in their gas…let’s switch it up and keep them guessing…maybe clean a coffee cup or two

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Change it to what? Nothing in here has changed. Gas is still shit. Lots has methanol. Tons has amines. Some im finding now has acetone. Some people still don’t believe there is a problem at all and continue to dig a deeper hole. Information gets shared, if you haven’t seen action you can take on your end with this info you’re not using it. :man_shrugging:

Many people have and I know about 6 different people I’m in contact with who have all developed their own way to combat these problems from info here. All still need a bit of work but when I see a safely repeatable solution someone wants to share I’ll bring it here.

@Waxplug1 I buy more media from you then I do carbon chemistry by a long shot. I’ve also met you in person, support your local business every time I can and have never met nor been offered a penny from carbon chemistry or anyone who works for them. Fact check before you troll because if it wasn’t for the CC statement I easily would have ignored it. But I’m not gonna get trolled about supporting a media company I don’t know and don’t spend much money with by one I’ve met and do spend money with.:upside_down_face:

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I am trying to fact check the rami papers but I guess they’re not coming. CC comment is just trolling Cat I know you don’t sell or work for them

Not coming because you decided you’re done waiting so that must mean they are not coming?

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Before I left, the last few test samples that were sent out came back with residual pentane and acetone as well. Leaving me quite confused!

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Shoot. That took a turn.

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Tough love :fist_right: :grin:

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If there’s love, I’ll take it.

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Gotta apply pressure to get results. Its all hype tho so I’ll probably see them once the industry is non existent

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Rami… the guy thats a hand his hand in a handful of gas subsidiaries that have shut down and now hes in a new company finding solutions to the issues he probably already knew about.

The same guy that was supposed to get us COA’s to the tanks we were testing in house that came out with a ton of unknown peaks and were of major concern of ours and causing all sorts of fast crash issues.

COA’s that we still to this day haven’t received.

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I’m just looking for some sort of proof since we’re designing solutions based around the claims being made here.

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Reading thru all these comments like, didnt yall say and blast me/echo chamber my comments about it not being demystified, and here you all are here still trying to ā€œdemystifyā€ so.

Also curious how the paper is stuck in political limbo when the research was yours.

Went from allowing me to share the findings in OP to Political limbo sus. I love the quote function of this website

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Acetone is made from isopropyl not saying ive dug into research or anything as i would consider this a outlandish claim/highly unlikly but what if alcohols in the plant and whatever your trying to do to remediate so is producing so. If it wasnt there before but is now, either your sample butane are from different sources and your ā€œtestsā€ have substanial variables or your producing it yourself thru ā€œremediation.ā€

Acetone doesnt just appear, if these were controlled studies with the same parameters than the only change would be your remediation which would mean so but i havn’t seen any variables/papers/testing so unless theres something not stated you are producing the acetone.

If you knew me you would understand that someone I owe nothing to, who has done nothing for me demanding more and trying to pressure me into doing what they want… Well it instantly comes across as ludicrous to me as it does when I type it out to everyone else.

It’s as if you think trolling now is going to cover up your position on this issue since the beginning? Literally people you have paid to teach you how to crash diamonds have been saying something is up for a long time and you continually have misidentified traits of the contaminant as traits of butane itself. I’ve ignored it this long but if you insist on trolling I won’t be able to refrain indefinitely.

Again I am different than lots on here. The way I act here and real life are one in the same. I’m not shy in the slightest and I put money in your pocket specifically support you as a local business. Think before you troll for your own enjoyment. Pretty quiet in real life compared to on here, I’d love to hear what you really think when I come pickup media because you sure haven’t said any of this in person you just respectfully talk Tek. Skip it next time and tell me what you think because the persona you put on from your future account and you in real life are pretty different.

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