Exactly, so the refrigerant is mixed into the supply and there is the contamination without liability.
Dont get me wrong, im not defending, my livelihood was effected by this too and we are all fortunate to have this going public but I dont think suing the resellers out of business is the answer. Just increases prices in the end
In ca you legally canât buy butane without a type 7 license. Now plenty of suppliers look the other way. We had to show proof of license and certificate of occupancy to get our gas.
@MWCanna you have batch info from your methanol gas from solvent direct? @BigM_2 would it be possible to see where that batch came from? GI and Diversified told me if I found methanol in one of your tanks it must have been from tanks you filled with Cortland gas. I found this strange as Cortland said none of the gas in your tanks is their gas.
Sounds like diversified is giving you the run around. Odds are the folks youâre all talking with donât know their ass hole from a hole in the ground
I had a conversation with some pretty high ups at diversified and GI. I pulled no punches, asked hard questions and when they tried to dance around them pointed out such. It was likely a very uncomfortable situation for them especially when I brought up the benzene contaminated tank I still have hostage from KushCo that has a big old Gas Innovations sticker on it. They tried telling me only Cortland gas has issues and I told them they are flat wrong and that is laughable. Told them if they want to establish good will we can start at the benzene contaminated gas they had sold me from them through kushco that ruined hundreds of thousands of dollars in product. I can tell you that conversation did not go as planned for them.
Trying to deny the methanol and DEA issue when poor QC on their part and then flat denying years ago cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars?!
What a surprise they asked to pick the benzene tank I have held hostage for testing Iâll give them a sample so they can realize bad QC has been happening for years. That is benzene ffs something there is no debate about the need for them to test. Something like DEA and methanol could slip by current QC so easily if they let benzene slip by.
Butane, isobutane, and propane are refrigerants. They label them as such so that they donât have to go through the loopholes of labeling them as an extraction solvent. They are non odorized and when I would use them years ago (traditional dealings), the current issues were never a problem.
Yes, I would have to agree, had problems making isolates or diamonds back in the day with clearly dirty gas.
I am also interested to see how we could achieve to truly deodorized gas in the lab as mentioned in @Dukejohnson findings, I bet the extracts would smell better & im almost sure it could carry more desirables in solution.
Uhhhhhh if you think an opened tank in your possession is evidence for a case sorry buddy. Long as it was opened(aka that plastic wrapped around the nozzle is torn off) they can argue you tampered it. YOu know how many beverage providers and other food mfgs have gotten (away?) people are scummy alot of suits are bs. The only time it went thru against a beverage manufactuerer was when a baby rat was found inside the drink and they deemed it to large to have been put in their after canning(they actually did a autopsy on the rat and saw/it was deemed that there would have been cuts and such if it were forced and it was undamaged and nearly twice the width of the drinking whole.
Anyone can taint a product after theyve opened it you got nada buddy. they aint scared i promise u that lol
Only way you winning a case is with an unopened new tank. Even than they can argue negligence and blast the company they are reselling for. Big gas/oil dont give a fuck about this tiny market that requires so much work/transportation for such minimal profits. If labs could hold larger volumes they might come into play with large orders and discounts thatll put everyone else out of buisness but its really not worth any of their troubles. Oil giants will fight back and blast tank cleaning procedures im sure.
Reselling gases isnt that illegal/that regulated it has the same loopholes us potheads had at smokeshops before it was legal. Can it be used illegaly yes. Are you advertising that its for pot instead of tobacco yes your gonna have issues but lets be real we know how the game works. Shit i was approved by the department of transportation to transport resell any hazardous materials at age 19, all it took was a 40 hr class that you could set an auto clicker on and skip 35 hours of it . I hear some people do that for osha too
Itâs unopened, I have 6 almost emptied as well you can get a little out of still.
You make many assumptions, talk mad shit on subjects you obviously donât understand, then when proof you are wrong is thrown in your face you ignore it and move on to the next logical fallacy.
In the thread that everyone disagreed with you in? how delusional are you that your still right. i posted it on social media a lot of people tihnk an your asshole in real life too even some of your suppliers .
ummm how do you know the tank is contaminated if you havnt opened it . keep lying fam, i didnt move on, but you about to stretch the truth some more or go off topic yourself ;). Im sure your supplier is gathering evidence on you rn if you âcame at them like that.â did you open it or not? sicne u claimed it was contaminated and now your claiming it wasnt guess what if u were in court youd be facing a perjury charge. Also if you state its contaminated before opening your gonna have a defamation case on your hands soon enough. Keep that big talk up buddy, gas suppliers gonna have some fun with your messages you cant delete here. gnarc4200
Also if you think most these companies arent moving all their cash to another buisness/llc or whatever chain of companies/trusts they move it thru your fooling yourself. You think with months of heads up of everyone trying to blame gas suppliers they gonna keep their funds around for you to sue for? First lawsuit?
yall need to stop being cry babies someone disagreeing with you instead of kissing ass for likes isnât talking shit. its called a difference of opinion.
not to mention you quoted a post after my comment. how am i supposed to read that if i wrote my comment first? lol
Everyone wants to be right how about being humble
Problem solved? For production users. YesâŚ
Arguing over a problem solved. ???
Credit hogging or attention absorbing? Plenty
Take a pic @Dukejohnson show us them lot numbers. No im not expecting to be right but if its the truth im not opposedto it. Facts are facts i accept them unlike dred
This is what i mean i cant have adifference of opinion without being self absorbed/credit hogging(i just said its not the issue not that i fixed it dont see the relveancy?) The problem didnt occur with a majority of the industry so problem solved is stretch let the people experiencing the issues come back with results if it did solve their problem. One mans theory is not a fact, hes âowed 6 figuresâ by these gas companies both are financially involved and inccredibly biased take a college statistics class and your learn how foolish it is to listen to only 1 of the 2 biased parties at hand