This company gave me a quote for one of these with white powder coating for $6k. Has anyone used them in the past? Maybe even had an electrician modify it to be C1D1 and had their local municipality be happy?
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I’ve heard of people doing this. Though, I’ve mainly heard of people using them unmodified and keeping them for c1d2.
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DM me.
I am working on multiple projects doing this rn.
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Are you using this company in particular? They seem very legit, but I would be surprised if no one from this site has used them in the past
Hi there,
I reviewed that booth you posted.
It is actually only designed as a storage room for paint/sprays.
You will need a room with down draft or side draft and a proper rated feet per minute of flow, to safely replicate a C1D1 booth for the purposes we use them for.
This booth you posted simply exhausts from a port in the roof, and does not include any form of plenum/false wall to allow for a side/downdraft flow creation.
DM me for info on booths, I have been going down this rabbit hole for quite a few months now, can point you to the right vendors for components.
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I knew there had to be a catch with such a cheap price tag, thank you for spotting that!
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Can you share info here with us all @Cannachem im sure a lot of us would like to know. I sure would.
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Seconded
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No, I cannot share whom actually makes the booths…
I am in contract talks with 3 suppliers to become a dedicated vendor for our industry for C1D1 booths, at a very reasonable price.
If you have a need for booths, DM me, if you’re serious.
I am not going to give away the IP/knowledge that I have been developing and growing the past 5 years, without any benefit on my end.
I will give out SOP’s and help with tips, but if you want a booth from one of my suppliers, you will need to send me a project/bid request, and I will provide you with all needed components.
No markup on the C1D1 interlocks, or LEL sensor package, in fact those are easy to get yourself.
The LEL does need basic programming. Not easy for anyone to do.
I have 2 UL controls teams I am working with, and am looking to make a super simple analog panel that’ll handle c1d1 operations.
The UL shops always charge a little, as they put their name upon the applied UL sticker, essentially they take liability the panel is functional to UL specs, and UL comes and inspects and puts a sticker on.
I am able to get my panel prices down if I can get some other parties interested in a basic analog panel.
Same with booths, I can bring prices down if we order more at once.
Otherwise, there is always some small premium on the assembly of components, as sometimes when components are backorderd, we have to spend silly amnts of time sourcing alternative components (lots of UL electrical components are backorderd heavily rn)…
I am working on getting my website updated, I am on boarding a few new employees soon so hopefully we can fulfill bids/quotes a bit quicker in the coming months.
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Another note is that most of the paint booth suppliers have 0 knowledge of the NFPA standards that apply towards our various open and closed loop systems we use with ETOH, and Hydrocarbons.
Im essentially having my PE engineer our booths on solidworks, to then give to our booth manufacturer to build towards.
The manufacturer has their own engineers, but they have only done 1 or 2 C1D1’s in house for the hemp/canna industries.
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Cant blame you for not wanting to give away free IP, whats an approximate price you’ll be charging for a small turn key C1D1 booth for a small closed loop? I’m not sure what standard sizes you’ll be offering, but how will the price compare to a similar sized HAL booth for example?
To be honest,
I am not a fan of ‘standard’ sizes.
As an engineer thats not the way to approach the solution.
We will be offering custom booths for EVERY order.
Quotes will not be instantly returned, we will need a few days to market check and confirm the prices we can quote.
Offering ‘standard’ sizes is like a one size fits all solution for an industry that has different equipment, methods, and room constraints.
Anything from floor-standing 10’x5.5’ fume-hood style rooms for small post processing/CLS systems, to large 30’x25’-range sized rooms for the ETOH systems.
Pricing is very conditional on your requirements.
We plan on offering kidde Fire Supression systems as options, as well as a unique 2-hr fire resistant coating we can supply for your booth.
Thats right, you no longer need a 2-hr sheet rock firewall, for added MAQ’s.
We can accomplish that requirement using far less assembly labor and less freight cost.
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UL 508A shops have to pay something like $20k/year just to stay certified, which is insane.
However, one can get in-house built panels certified so long as they are built to the proper standards. You just have to have the inspection done by a NRTL inspector, so long as you’re building less than 500(?) of a given panel per year.
That sounds to me a lot like E-119 fire-resistant paint.
http://www.flamecontrol.ca/fire-retardant-coating/special-coats/no-e-119/
If anyone is looking for Hazardous rated electrical stuff, Larson Electronics is a decent vendor with a pretty big parts catalog. Their website is atrocious and difficult to search. But if you know a part number (say a Killark part number), you can use that to search the Larson site and if they carry it, it should come up.
One example being the Killark HKHPLG C1D2 / Zone 1 12-24V pilot light.
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Anyone interested in booths, please DM me!
Would love to send a quote for you to see the price/engineering differences between us and our competition.
Thanks,
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once upon a time I made the mistake of trying to engage Larson’s webmaster.
we had to find alternate sources for components on that build 
I have come to the conclusion that larson’s website terribleness is deliberate. I bet big customers get spreadsheets with part numbers and custom pricing, and everyone else can pound sand for the most part.
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