Bogus Vape Cartridges Linked to Outbreak of Pulmonary Problems, Hospitalizations

Over the past weeks, dozens of people across several states have experienced serious lung problems, even requiring hospitalization. In many of these cases, illicit market dab carts may be to blame

The federal Centers for Disease Control have opened an investigation into a mysterious wave of severe pulmonary problems across several states over the past weeks — principally in the Midwest, principally affecting young people and seemingly linked to vaping.

The CDC announced its investigation in a statement Aug. 17. It noted that “94 possible cases of severe lung illness associated with vaping were reported in 14 states from June 28, 2019, to August 15, 2019.” Wisconsin has been hit the hardest, with 30 cases reported. The CDC is also working with local health authorities to try to get to the bottom of the phenomenon in Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota and California.

Local doctors are, in most cases, not clear on what the victims had been inhaling. Wisconsin health officials said that “[t]he products consumed could include a number of substances, including nicotine, THC, synthetic cannabinoids or a combination of these.”

The North Carolina Department of Health also reports three cases in the state, and has issued a recommendation that consumers of vaping products stop using them while authorities investigate.

“We know there are certain characteristics in common with these cases, but we have not been able to get to the bottom of exactly what aspect of the vaping habit or product or solvent or oil is causing the injury,” Dr. Emily Chapman, chief medical officer for Children’s Minnesota, a pediatric health system headquartered in Minneapolis, told NBC News.
Prohibition is Part of the Problem

JUUL also emphasized that some reports indicated patients had used THC, “a Schedule I, controlled substance that we do not sell.” While noting the issue of unregulated knockoff products, the statement echoed prohibitionist assumptions: “We also must ensure illegal products, such as counterfeit, copycat, and those that deliver controlled substances, stay out of the market and away from youth.”

Yet, once again, prohibition may actually be a big part of the problem. In one of the states where the grisly incidents have been reported, California, vape pens are available on the regulated market. But in most of the rest, they are not — certainly not in Wisconsin, where the greatest number of such cases are reported.

The laws governing cannabis extracts vary from state to state. And in states where marijuana is still illegal, vape pens are popular thanks to their relative lack of smell and resemblance to cartridges containing nicotine. But, by definition, the cartridges are not regulated by any authority in these states.

In a particularly strange irony, many of these potentially dangerous knockoffs are apparently being produced in China for the American illicit market, making this a case of Chinese capitalism exploiting American prohibition.
Chapman told NBC that the four teens admitted to Children’s Minnesota all arrived with what staff originally assumed was a bad respiratory infection, such as pneumonia. This was ruled out when instead of getting better with treatment, they got worse.

“They have progressed to have significant difficulty with their breathing and increasing lung distress,” Chapman said. “They’ve ended up needing our intensive care unit and in some cases assistance with their breathing.”

Physicians in the other states report similar situations. “All patients reported vaping prior to their hospitalization, but we don’t know all the products they used,” Andrea Palm of the Wisconsin Department of Health Services told the NBC affiliate in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

One such unfortunate patient is Dylan Nelson, 26, of Burlington, Wisconsin. He began feeling sick after taking a few hits from a new vape cartridge. The next morning, he went to the hospital and his condition continued to deteriorate throughout the day. By evening, his lungs were filling with fluid and doctors had to put him into a medically induced coma. He has since been discharged and is slowly recovering. His brother, Patrick DeGrave, told NBC that Nelson bought his vape cart off the street — not from a reputable shop.

DeGrave got to what may well be the root of the problem: “People will buy them from the states where it is legal and they’ll bring them back to states such as Wisconsin where it’s not legal,” he said. “You don’t know if you’re buying something from a middle man that picked it up from a dispensary or if you’re buying it from somebody who has tampered with it and made their own mixture.”

Manufacturers of vape carts filled with cannabis distillate are facing something of a crisis as the market has been flooded with counterfeit products. These contraband knockoffs are apparently fooling many consumers, but may contain toxin-laden and adulterated substances. Industry voices are urging buyers to beware.

Producers of e-cigarettes have, of course, been quick to distance their products from the dab carts, although e-cigs face controversies of their own. As Ars Technica notes, their proponents argue that vaping nicotine is significantly safer than smoking cigarettes, and can even help smokers kick their habit, But some companies have faced harsh criticism over charges that they are marketing their products to teenagers, contributing to what the FDA has called an “epidemic of youth e-cigarette use.”

JUUL Labs, the top U.S. e-cigarette producer (which has been censured by the FDA for its marketing practices), said in a statement to Reuters: “These reports reaffirm the need to keep all tobacco and nicotine products out of the hands of youth through significant regulation on access and enforcement.”
Experts Recommend Herbaceous Cannabis

In an exploration of the controversies around vaping, Healthline interviewed Dr. Jordan Tishler, a Massachusetts medical cannabis specialist. Tishler urged those who choose to vape to use the safest method possible. “Not all vaporizing is the same,” Tishler said. “I recommend vaporizing the whole cannabis flower. The little pen-shaped vaporizers that have become very fashionable and use cannabis oil should be avoided.”

Tishler warned: “The cannabis in those devices is most often thinned with propylene glycol or polyethylene glycol. Neither of these are safe to heat and inhale. There are alternatives for patients who find loading a conventional vaporizer with ground cannabis is too much for them. I’d recommend looking into a pod-based device.”

Pods, unlike vape pens, are reusable, and generally made out of better material — although this appears to concern what the device itself is made of, rather than the extract or distillate it is filled with.

But the fundamental paradox is this: In states where cannabis prohibition still reigns, herbaceous bud is of course not legally available, which is why some who wish to imbibe turn to cartridges in the first place

Lrus007

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Glad my state wasn’t mentioned.

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Moral of the story:

Prohibition causes more harm than good.
Don’t smoke black market carts.
Cutting carts with mystery goo puts the health and safety of the consumer out the window.

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@ExTek90
You cant make a blanket statement that all bm cart makers are shady and poison ppl. I take pride in my clean, grey area/bm carts.

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i think it could be some of the cheap china carts.
tho some people will do anything for money.
Lrus007

It’s not the cart per say (minus the lead carts), but more of shady ppl buying mario/dank/brass/etc packaging, then filling them up with garbage/poison, and selling to the unsuspecting end user.

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Nothing against you personally, but, when the risk is lung disease… Call me crazy, I view that as unnecessary risk. I don’t need to smoke a cart that bad.

What difference is a pod? Am I missing something here? Lady says pods are safer. I don’t get that.

I had someone want the knockoff brass knuckles only and not knowing the quality of the cart i declined for more than 1reason. He did bring me a sample and i saw obvious oil inside the cart( not disty) it reminded of my welding and pipe fitting days as manufacturing oil like you use in a drill press. No idea what is causing the problems there but i can onlt imagine what there adding to there metals to make the alloys. Our high pressure pipe had to be 3rd party certified to match what it was suppose to be, this was almost 2 decades ago but they were still making crazy mixes for thw Chinese steel. You could always tell when you tig welded it by the way it behave and the consistency of there metal was not even with whatever they were using. Glad i have no part of the knockoff cart hustle. If the oil doesnt speak for its self then fancy packaging is the only way.

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It seems like another bad batch went out. 30 cases in just one state? The carts may be branded differently but the product could be exactly the same. Have these not been tested?

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I posted about this nearly a week ago now.

The vape cartridge industry is going to take a big hit, especially the black market. I hope whoever, whatever is causing this gets solved though.

The three possible culprits in my mind are adulterants(cuts, fake products, etc), pesticides, or bad cartridges. Could even be an unintended contaminant introduced from using containers or utensils during manufacturing of any of the items. GMP exists because of such unintended contaminations.

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Ecigarettes use PG, VG, and sometimes PEG from my understanding in high concentrations. The CDC straight up says vaping is safer than smoking cigarettes, even though the surgeon general found ecigarette aerosol still exposes you to carcinogens & heavy metals.

The CDCs National Youth Tobacco Survey found that in 2018, 20.8% of high school students (about 3 million kids) used vapes. When was a kid put into a medically induced coma from one of those? Surely this would be national news…

Anyway in my experience they don’t mix with distillate as well as oils or terpenes, which is why MCTs caught on in the first place. Now that some consumers know to check the viscosity of their pens, it appears some dickheads are trying to find a cut that mimics distillate while still lowering the cost.

I’ve posted on every one of these threads but again, in my unprofessional opinion, I think these 94 people consumed something out of the ordinary.

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agree here, I’d never sell doo doo. Cutting agents including. Oddly they mentioned synthetic thc and china.

i’ll try to get my hands on a dank cart for testing.

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You can get lung disease from the shitty air we breathe in.

2nd hand smoke
Cigarettes
Cigars
Asbestos
Etc

I value your point, dont get me wrong. But trying to justify only carts are bad (especially bm) is one sided thinking.

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So at this point is much safer to eat these “cut carts?” :joy::rofl:

You know what cut thickens up your disty and doesn’t come with health risks?

distillate

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Anyone notice all these health problems started around the time true terpenes viscosity formula changed.

I think true terpenes is responsible for all these health issues.

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That’d also explain why there’s been so few cases.

As if our public notice actually plummeted their Viscosity sales.

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