Need something to go faster?
Scream at it…
Sounds legit.
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@cyclopath A friend in the industry turned me on to small 24/40 fitting rotary evaporators. No screaming required, they work great, our setup could degas over a hundred thousand grams a month, if necessary. We have a Buchi too, with 4L pear shaped flasks, not pictured.
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Are those flasks being heated to 250 F in oil baths?
In that specific picture, no. I have experimented with decarbing THCA in a rotary evap with oil bath and above 95C capabilities. My preference is decarb under pressure, which requires degassing afterwards.
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Be better if you went to 150c. Yes that’s above 95c, but also not nearly warm enough for thca. Standard crude, yes.
Keep telling it the same thing over and over lol
I’d be curious to actually try this method out as the vacuum would relinquish the CO2 and the condenser would save your terpenes for later reintroduction. The rotation of the reaction flask would make the decarboxylation process more efficient in theory.
Would definitely get the job done if you had those baths filled with oil. Would need to see if there are any unwanted side reactions occurring before the volatiles collect in the receiving flask.
I have recently entered the world of isolat, and at the moment I spread everything on a baking tray with baking paper, set the oven at 125 degrees for about 40m,Advice on how to improve the method or does this already give a good result? I see that after a while it starts to make bubbles and then bigger and bigger bubbles towards the end of 40m, from white it melts and becomes amber in color then recrystallizes let’s say.
125 kelvin?!?
(I’m assuming C, point is without units it’s just a number)
Under vac would reduce oxidation.
If it recrystallizes you haven’t decarbed
Not all solids are crystalline…eg THC isn’t
I explained myself badly, forgive me, so yes 125°C for 35/40m, everything melts Then I let it cool to room temperature and then I put it in the fridge so it becomes hard, I don’t know how to express it, but at room temperature it becomes very sticky again.
I tested it and the product seems to be activated, I just wanted to know if there was any different tool or instrument that I could buy to do everything better which seems a bit home-made to me like this.
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Yep. Suck on it
You could also dispense with “get it hard”.
Meh.
It gets sticky (again) at room temp certainly should have kept “recrystallizes” out of the conversation…but you clearly knew that already.
…and neither 125K nor 125F would have cause bubbles.
You’re correct, it does look a little “home made”…but it is, and unless this is your profession, there’s little need to make it any more complicated.
Decarbing 10-12kg in 20l glass reactor under vac
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What type of reactor are you using?
Nothing special.
Same sort China is selling around here
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Hey there, did yall ever narrow down what exactly causes that bubbling reaction? I’ve been having the same issues in my lab & would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Read it again, then tell the class what @HydrogenP
A) believes the bubbles to be.
And
B) had chosen to do about it?
or do you need help with what decarboxylation actually means?
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Bubble mites
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To be completely honest I had wrote that comment before I had gotten the chance to sift through the 198 post thread lol. I did however find the solution I was looking for, which was flattening out the bubbles with the vac oven post decarb. I am fully aware it could be as simple as decarbing our sauce as well as how the decarbing process works, but unfortunately that is not an option as my lab director refuses to do so. Appreciate it though!
Presumably your lab director also isn’t a believer in In House analytics or data driven decision making?
Perhaps they comprehend Fuck Around and Find Out?
See if you can get permission to explore…
If there are multiple routes to a solution, actually comparing those routes using metrics you (they) claim to care about (“terpene” profile) makes way more sense than “nope we ain’t doing that!”.
I’d recommend in house “terpene” profiling, but 3rd party testing is also an option.
In my defense…you did respond to post number 172…and @HydrogenP does clearly state they took the route your lab director is unwilling to explore.
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You hit the nail on the head my dude. It always goes back to preserving terps with no actual data behind the decisions being made… just 6 months + of trial and error (mostly error) We’ve collectively been asking to decarb the sauce, but he prefers to work the bubbles out of the LLR with a stir-bar for 48 hours (sometimes more). Last week I had the techs try the vacuum tech to get the bubbles out since decarbing the sauce is so frowned upon here, and when he found out he was upset that we explored a solution lol. So yeah it’s a tough ladder to climb to say the least.