@Ogcarts MCT is pretty rough on your body since its a lipid.
edited because I was specifying to use TT’s viscosity product which I now no longer believe to be a good additive.
People can change their minds. Don’t come for me, you desperate trolls.
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Seems like a close match to the picture. Lmao. No wonder why your pointing people to that stuff.
“I saw that if you are a part of the @goodlifegang you get a discount on every True Terpenes purchase as well, and then theres a pot that accumulates for a $250 giveaway.”
You would think that being the VP of a company that you would know your companies policies rather than making it like a suggestion. This is pretty deceptive.
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Yes, I work for True Terpenes. I wouldn’t ignore or deny any question asking me so.
I was a longtime customer of True Terpenes and would suggest them to every one of my clients when I owned my manufacturing and co-packing facility. This is how I found out about them as well, from an endorsement by Samantha, the founder and chief scientist of Pure Analytics (whom I highly respect). This is why I work for them, because I loved their products so much and believed in them; I went straight to them once I moved on from my facility.
I am an active member of this forum with cartridge formulation expertise, therefore I post in mostly cartridge formulation related posts given thats where I feel I can contribute the best to this community. I don’t just spam True Terpenes, I offer genuine advice/opinion/knowledge and I do link to other items as well, such as this post advising someone on how to formulate at home. → Dab Cart Tips - #15 by Audra
or this post about the 100L a week script → The "100 liter a week" script - #7 by Audra
I do post about True Terpenes a lot, but honestly even if I didn’t work for them I’d still be suggesting them. They are what worked best for me from customer service, certificates of analysis, to actual product. I also cringe at suggestions of cutting things with MCT because it is simply not good to add to oil when there are alternatives out there.
I do admit I got lazy with this last post and didn’t go into my normal rant about “lipid pneumonia” and the dangers of MCT and for that I apologize. And for that you called me out. Completely understandable, heard and noted. I will do better next time. I will not, however, stop posting about True Terpenes because thats what I would do regardless of my affiliation with them. I will continue to give genuine advice to this community via the channels of my expertise and related posts.
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Also…good job on Waynes world. @anon56994712
(Also, if I was trying to be sneaky, I wouldn’t have my real name and identical photo on my profile.)
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What are the names of the flavorless and odorless terpeness used in this product and how are these normally derived or synthesized?
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I had a list of viscosity terpenes on Facebook from one of their reps but squalane is one.
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Can you link us to studies showing how you came to that conclusion? As far as I know there are no real answers as to whether or not pg, peg, MCT are detrimental when Vaped. Some will produce carcinogens when combusted at very high temps but even then the studies do not state what levels or if the levels are high enough to be an issue.
Also MCT is a medium chain triglyceride which does not produce harmful effects like long chain triglycerides it is a highly purified fractionated derivative of long chain lipids. Also MCT does not produce lipid pneumonia like I tend to see repeated on many boards
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All the science and articles about how safe inhaling MCT, VG and PG can be will not change the minds of those who have used alternatively sourced terpenes in contrast.
After sampling all methods of diluting extract for vaping you can tell that MCT/VG/PG irritate your lungs sooner or later, while Terp mixes often do not.
That being said, Terps have a downside, they can evaporate away easily and are much more likely to phase or separate while MCT and PG usually do not, but that can be fixed with sonic homogenization.
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Here’s the best advice. If it’s not cannabis. Or imitating IE: non cannabis derived terps. You shouldn’t be vaporizing it with your cannabis. The only reason you are defending putting pg, vg, whateverpoisonyoupeddleG, mct. Is because you aren’t making them correctly. As far as getting undercut because you are buying your disty. A turnkey kit can cost you less than 12k. You may be able to turn competitive after that. Don’t put cooking oil in your vape carts. Unless you eat paint chips and lived by power lines as a kid.
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Audra, you do you. I’m positive it’s better than marketing cooking oil in vape carts.
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Omg this Wayne’s world clip tho
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Maybe home depot is the plug. (Not being serious, I’m just here to stir the pot)
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What about the fact your vaping tons of terps? Even flavor and odorless cant you over overload ? And wouldnt it still have some type of effect being a terp
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Please post the studies I’m not arguing Legitimately want to see them
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What spurred all of the buzz online was a marketer selling terps who posted to a chemistry forum. He has already been rebuted online.
What is the chemical reaction through which propylene glycol/glycerin forms formaldehyde/acetaldehyde?
Propylene glycol is NOT the same as glycerin. Propylene glycol does not decompose on heating, it simply boils. In theory, under certain conditions (pressure/encapsulation/catalysts) it could dehydrate to either acetone or Propionaldehyde, probably the former.
As for glycerine (= glycerol = VG = animal glycerine), that decomposes below its boiling point by a simple dehydration mechanism, to acrolein and water.
C3H8O3−→ΔC3H4O+2H2O
Acrolein could further degrade by a retro aldol condensation to acetaldehyde and formaldehyde. This could be catalysed by acids/bases (both of which are present in eliquids) or even by hot metal catalysts (such as the heating coil):
C3H4O−→−H+H3CCHO+HCHO
or
C3H4O−→−−−−hot metalH3CCHO+HCHO
These are well known reactions to any organic chemist, and are far more likely to happen than any vague/spurious 'oxidation' reactions as suggested by a few.
Why does propylene glycol form more carbonylated products than glycerol? Because it has a dual mode of dehydration. Really, this is a 'Have you stopped beating your wife?' question: PG and glycerol can form multiple carbonyl compounds, depending on what further side reactions happen:
Formaldehyde is stable, other than the possibility of oxidation to formic acid or carbon dioxide. Acetalydehyde can dimerize to crotonaldehyde. Acrolein can both dimerize, polymerise and undergo addition reactions, in all cases forming a variety of carbonyl compounds
One of the most bizarre things about some studies (including those of Dr Fasolinos), is that while formaldehyde and acetaldehyde are observed, there is insignificant acrolein. And he makes little comment about the latter! Don't you wonder where it's all going? I'd suggest that the bulk of the acrolein is decomposing to those two other carbonyl compounds.
Most aldehydes undergo oxidation over time, but this is not combustion taking place.
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This was a good discussion on the topic I found many issues with the vague studies used to slander PG, peg and MCT (which is not simply cooking oil) it’s fractionated and then long LCTs are split up into shorter digestible compounds)
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