Bad consultant experiences

Most steel is made in China. It’s pretty good.

That’s not what they fabricate all of this cheap lab equipment out of however.

If they could sell you aluminum foil and call it stainless they would. Instead they give you low grade 200 stuff with all kinds of weird metallurgical components and call it 316 as you watch it rust before your eyes.

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I have been waiting for my Chinese parts (all of them) to rust. My system is outside in an unconditioned space, so I figured it would happen pretty quick (if it’s going to happen)

Nothing yet. Fingers crossed :partying_face:

Even my crocs are made in Vietnam. Lol

Edit: My Filson “upland/ moccasin-toe boots” are made In USA. Not sure of other filson products.

Much of this industry doesn’t share in the leveling up together mentality sadly.

The anti China hypocrisy is a giant laughing point to me.

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This chico is keeping it :100: with both sides of the border. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Its about that time in china.

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Its like the lil American flags that say made in mexico on the tag

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@moveweight is right it is hypocritically laughable.

I’m sorry some of you have bad experiences but mine have shown that it doesn’t even matter of its your home country or not. I’ve had Chinese machine shops use better quality material than some American and be more skilled.

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I don’t feel like supporting American workers is hypocrisy.

Murica :us:

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I’m all about supporting American business and shops for a fair price and a great quality done in a timely manner but from my experience the those 3 things are very very hard to find together. The days fair quality work have all but disappeared. I honestly wish that these things weren’t true because I bleed red white and blue.

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I think it’s hypocrisy to think you’re not supporting American workers when you buy Xtractor Depot, Across International, BVV, and so forth.

They literally are the example American businesses working globally to source quality and quantity at competitive prices.

They staff hundreds of Americans and feed other countries as well.

The hypocrisy is trying to make your product stand out as 100% American made. American reps. American this and that. Like a maga hat comes with your systems.

It’s not attractive. Especially knowing you all use Samsung & Apple products and have completely given up your very own American made policy on major products and services because there is no American made phones. That’s just the tip of the iceberg of hypocrisy.

The irony is you’re communicating from Chinese or Korean products about how American products are superior.

When I was a part of a little team with a rosin press: BVV & XD both became distributors of my teams products and helped us fund our business. They’re some of the few companies willing to get the little guy some spotlight and opportunities.

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you have to take the good with the bad. If you want a 1k dollar iPhone/galaxy S20 and cheap SS. Look the other way on child labor and wear a mask whenever you leave the house.

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I think you are giving too many crooks, frauds, and profiteers credit. There are people who actually care about customers. Some of the companies you mentioned clearly don’t care about customers.

Feeding American workers and giving them the work is a big difference than feeding offshore companies, slave labor and numerous other fucked up things.

We’re responsible for allowing it on our shoes. In our hands and pockets. In our living rooms. Cooling our food. We are global these days and everyone will look to source competitively and yes they will not receive the quality they’re looking for unless they QC the hell out of imports before putting them on shelves.

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:eyes::eyes::eyes: damn why does florida gotta be hard mode :rofl::joy: they made me build character by raising my own funds. I had to raise funds to school uphill both ways in the sun. If my mother knew I was simply raising funds instead of building them, she would have beat me with a ledger. Back in our day, our funding was allowed to beat our ass. We didn’t have smokings, we had beatings so when we went down range we would keep our funding when it counted. You privates are too used to peacetime funding. Funding used to be a brutal process. When we were downrange most of the funds we’d encounter would actually take this war seriously. They’d weigh 80 lbs with their turban and ak 47s on. You privates won’t ever amount to shit you can’t even make a flour bomb.

Yup, @spdking already starting on his backstory for this thread :rofl::joy:

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Lmao they were Distro buyers. They didn’t actually fund anything. They just bought after the bulk inventory was made and “funded.” But they helped significantly with initial sales to recoup.

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This is the truth.

Also most over seas companies can’t be held liable. So they will lie through thier teeth till a accident happens and then dissapear.

China especially doesn’t care - and not one person can make a valid argument saying other wise.

Sellers in China will blow your lab up, tell you to fuck off, and then ask you if you need gear for your new lab.

Saying some bogus argument like we all have cell phone from China so we are hypocritical is a flawed argument. The mere fact that cheap consumerism has driven offshore cell phone manufacturing and prevention of domestic options…this is the issue.

Instead of paying Americans 7.50 for a pair of home slippers with stiching that lasts and good material, Karen - Susan - Sharron all had to fight for that 4.50 slipper that won’t last three months.

This is the life you guys build for yourselves. The more to send people’s work off cheaply to China the absolute less you’ll see America. Products outshine. Also it’s a state of mind…

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HOLY SHIT! On this memorial day…Its more china rants… who would have quessed???

I can sleep at night knowing i really support my local economy. Im supporting companies in other countries too. Im not just thinking about me but the bigger picture of the world. We are all humans. Just water and culture seperate us. I bet we are all really similar!

now back to how china is the evil empire and jeff bezos is the best american…hold on we cant forget trump. Did i leave anything out?

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We ( I wasn’t at least :joy:)weren’t the generation that sent it overseas. We’re the generation dealing with what’s not available here for a reasonable price. Which seems to be a lot now.

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Just like non propane systems Being labeled as propane for sales and profiteering…

To think when a cheap American supplier can sell something that places risk and injury on the consumer and then threaten to sue to consumer when thier hardware fails. What a word we live in. Where you can do seriously illegal shit and then delete and censor yourself on the internet the next day and threaten to sue everyone if they talked about your behavior.

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you know, for the first time I actually enjoyed this @spdking rant, it made sense and was to the point. :+1:

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You see this forum? I read someone tossing dry ice into a closed loop. This game is serious buyer beware and I ain’t got the funds for the insurance in it. So props to you and everyone else who does.

The risks outweigh a lot of the reward for many. Hell we had insurance for a rosin press and tons of warning labeling.

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