do our back and fourths sound like it was written by a computer?
No, I am very creative 
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No they sound like they were copy/pastaâd by @Estrella
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Hey, I love âsolventlessâ cannabis extracts as much as the next guy, butttttâŚ
Why is it that a self-proclaimed hash âguruâ (The dude is all over IG, posting all the heady BS next to the mothership he spent 10k on)⌠and it takes 6 days to extract 100lbs of fresh frozen bio, gets me a 2% yield of some B grade rosin (got $7 a G wholesale), and the COA on the product is 71% potent, 6% terpenesâŚ
Then I give 100 lbs of the EXACT SAME BIOMASS to a Hydrocarbon Tech that I personally trained, and I know has >60 days of experience total is his life⌠It takes him 4 hours to extract all of it, ready for testing in 3 days total, gets me a 3.8% yield of some A grade (Got $8 a G wholesale), COAâs show me 85% potent, 8% terpenes, 9 ppm of residual N-butaneâŚ
Because stereochemistry doesnât give a fuck if youâre a heady-boy with clout on IG. Thatâs why.
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Stereochemistry?
How exactly is stereochemistry relevant here?!?
You reckon there is something sinister about squish
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I do a âlittleâ consulting for a HTL (hydro-thermal liquefaction) group. They are into the synthetic jet fuelsâŚ.but your statement
âFrom seawaterâ is off targetâŚI think you may be confusing some stepsâŚ.perhaps âwith seawaterâ? You need a carbon, C, source.
Please informâŚif you have reference âŚperhaps I donât understand what you mean.
CuriousâŚand way off topic. Dm if you like.
Regards
Thanks
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There is a lot of information out there about it but here is some.
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Isolates CO2 from seawater, concentrates it and catalytically
Converts it to hydrocarbonâŚ
Yes, I see we have our carbon sourceâŚ
Nice referenceâŚ.
Thanks for the further explanation.
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Not in the slightest. I am merely suggesting that chemically selective solvents with tightly controlled temperature parameters might have an edge when it comes to extracting compounds of interest, relative to chemically nonselective methods like agitating the biomass in ice water and attempting mechanical separation with a hydraulic press and a sieve bag. Thatâs all Iâm saying. No shade on the squish.
Not shade. Asking for any reason for bringing stereochemistry into the discussion.
Other than not knowing ones Rectus from ones Sinister
Very few of the solvents used for extraction have anything in the way of âstereochemistryâ⌠can you name an exception?
Hint: itâs also one of the few exceptions to âplants generally only produce one stereoisomerâŚâ
Yes, there IS stereochemistry at the heart of our precious cannabinoidsâŚIâm asking how chirality is relevant to the extraction process.
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Put your beaker with a buchner funnel clamped to it on an utrasonic shaker 
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Water at subcritical, 3500psi/300 C is an incredible catalyst!
Down hole chemistry. It can turn hemp biomass into oil
On the fly. Think about all that post extraction biomassâŚ
If you were doing H2O extractionâŚ.you would be âfeed readyâ
Here the term means like putting cellulose in and getting a
Liquid out.
âThe application of ultrasound (US) energy for assisting the lignocellulosic biomass and waste materials conversion into value-added products has dramatically increased.â
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ultsonch.2020.105455
Ultrasonic assist is certainly a âgamerâ.
Thanks.
Not saying it ISNT.
Just asking why/how you believe it isâŚ
Eg: an
Could be either created in either D or LâŚonly one would actually deserve the moniker
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Yes! And when you combine this with ALL the detailed knowledge of BUTANE EXTRACTION THEORYâŚ
Why not throw out âchiralityâ with the rest of the BS.
Itâs all water over the dam now.
With considerable amusement.
Exactly!
If we were synthesizing from scratch, then using chiral solvents would make sense.
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Solvent structure is a variable to consider
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The chirality of several terpene isolates produces highly variable results when used as a secondary solvent for post-processing/refinement techniques.
Additionally, not that it is directly related to the question of stereochemical conformation, but different hydrocarbon isomers also function extremely well, or rather poorly, depending on the parameters at which you attempt to use them for extraction, Iso-butane vs N-butane is one obvious example.
I have been conducting a large-scale research project in my lab, for instance, to test the efficacy of various hydrocarbon solvents at a wide range of parameters for the extraction of specific cannabinoids, terpenes, thiols etc.
To date, we have committed over 50,000lbs of fresh frozen biomass to this endeavor, with some exciting results and some very clear winning formulas. Keep your eyes peeled for a white paper to be coming soon.
I guess a better way to put it than I did in my initial ramblings, would be to say that âChemoselectivity doesnât care if youâre a heady-boy with clout on IG.â But I digress.
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I am making fun of first step extraction.
If you think the whole class of modified cellulose supports
Which give rise to enantiomer selective separationsâŚIn prep HPLCâŚwell then yesâŚbut cellulose itself is chiral and shows little if any selectivity in these regards.
Now back to rosin: chemically extracted�
I want to introduce a new conceptâŚwhen you separate trichomes with ice waterâŚ.have you ever thoughtâŚsame SOP exceptâŚ
Can I look in the cold water for cannabinoidsâŚ.???
Variation of HOT TEA previously discussed with @cyclopath .
Some have published hot pressing in varying temp steps to
Yield a crystalline white THCA left in bagâŚ.
Can we just forget the pressing TEK and look for THCA in Water?
Fire in, Firewater out�?? One step???
Perhaps we should let the sleeping lion lie.
âWater, water, water, one stepââŚ
Color and fire.
This is an SOP advertisement for Certified Organic Cannabinoics.
DM if interested process chemistry.
5DAYSâŚCOUNTINGâŚ.Wake up 4200âŚthe days of stainless are numbered.
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Suggesting squish is more âfull spectrumâ?
One would expect the changing the solvent to change the nature of the extract. How many PAIRS of terpene isolates have you compared.
Limonene is the only one I can think of off the top of my head, but I certainly imagine there are others.
âHighly variable resultsâ could be construed as a failure. One generally aims for repeatable differences
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You are aware of the enormous amount of effort put forth in the past two years concerning âchemoselectivityâ of solvents, especially alkanes in the extraction of cannabinoic acids AND their subsequent precipitation in various crystalline forms.
The fact that you are even here offering information means that your have found an audience which is capable of appreciating your 50K lb efforts in VARIATION. So in regards to âchemoselectivityâ as a broad term, you are preaching to the choir.
Now with respects to chiral chemistry?
But a priori , please tell us what it is you are extracting from
Biomass. Like a little molecular diagramâŚor what it is YOU THINK you are extracting into your chemoselective solvent or chiral terpene modified solvent.
Or better, perhaps a white paper on the state of cannabinoic acids in trichome storage soup?
Or better, save everyone a lot of timeâŚand explain the crystal structure of medusa vs chalk.
If you read the X-ray diffraction study on THCAâŚ.they produce a crystal product ready for diffraction study in a single stepâŚ
Using a procedure that has less than 10% efficiency âŚ.now that may have something you might write a white paper on.
Actually , it is obvious you know what your are doingâŚlooking forward to your white paper reportsâŚ
Have you given much thought to water? Might want to get away from those nasty, carcinogenic terpenesâŚ
Sometimes there a bit of humor here.
I should add, it is quite clear you have switched from âstereochemistryâ to the more broad caveat, âchemoselectivity.â
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