Anyone solve Purple Oxidation from converted D9?

potentially lipids?

can occur from diamonds

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Probably Quinones they are breakdown products of your cannabinoids

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My man comes with receipts

Good info thanks

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this thread may provide insight as well

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Not really. Converted D9 will feature this quality, even when you do everything right AFAIK. Even mechanically separated THCA can oxidize quickly when decarbed.

as @silverstudent mentioned, quinones are everyone’s best bet. (check the thread above, they discuss them a bit)

Preventing oxidation through precise control of your atmosphere is the best way at the moment. Argon works best.

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You can dissolve some THCa into hot distillate. The carboxylic acid in the THCa is an anti oxidant.

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Doesn’t changing solvents fix that? I was under the impression DCM would produce an amber product

Rapid oxidation is typically due to high pH.

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If it is oxidation… Maybe use an antioxidant? Tocopherol, BHT, ascorbic acid come to mind, all GRAS… Which one of those yall want to smoke?

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some of the gums/fats/waxes off traditional extract in minute amounts?

Did you try to analyse the oxidised d9 to dtermine the extent of alteration wihch this vivid color changes accounts for ? :thinking:

This seems actually pretty limited, and somehow reversible, or mitigable with some easy tricks.

How do you correct this without water washing?

What would you use to analyze it? There aren’t any potency changes and it seems the pigment is VERY minuscule in concentration despite making such a large visual impact

Isn’t tocopherol the cause of the whole Vape crisis?

I’ve been getting that purple color too but it’s not converted


These are all converted D9. In the 90’s none the less… played around with different solvents, temps and other techniques to help with color. I tested everything In house with my gc before sending it off to third party testing. I have chromotagrams from every single reaction I’ve ever done at multiple different intervals throughout the reaction.

Ph would typically be the cause for discoloration as it’s not true for this D9 rxn. I’ve spent full days water washing batches and ensuring that I have a correct ph before distilling and yet, still purple.

Done at scale 8kg batch sizes. (After I nailed the reaction but test batch sizes were 1kg and did those for months before going to scale)

Also, I practiced a variety of other reactions for about 4-6 months as well as performing and perfecting my drying methods and working in anhydrous conditions before attempting this in test 1kg batches.




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I noticed the same with our rxn’s. No matter which catalyst or solvent we use, as long as our reaction conditions are gentle, the distillate is water clear or slightly yellow, but turns purple once it gets in contact with air (if the D9 content is high).
If the distillate is hot while it gets in contact with air, it turns purple like your round flask within seconds. If you set it under vacuum again, the distillate starts to bubble like you would purge left over solvent and the purple disappears again.
Not sure what causes the purple color, but its volatile.

Best way for us to prevent the purple color is adding minors (CBC, CBN, CBD, CBG), cannabis derived terpenes and/or unisomerized THC (BHO or other high THC extracts).
We add everything once the distillate is cold and Mix it under argon. After this it looks and behaves like regular distillate without weird purple colors.

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This year I am resolving to not reddit, but utube

In the first couple seconds, this tuber glosses over it, nbd

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0.5% wax added to a distillate will prevent oxidation.

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