Any SOP on terpene extraction?

Well that’s an interesting disconnect :wink:

maybe he’s using a high flow head?

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Yes, you’re correct my terpene runs are only 5 hours long. (a quarter of the amount of time of cannabinoid runs.) yes, my cannabinoid run time ranges from 17-25 hours depending on age of material and input weight over 4500 grams. i can cram 5500 if i’m lucky and the ground plant material is resinous. i have a 2015 Apeks, equipped with a CO2 gas pump booster system. it’s very slow as far as efficiencies go. but i love my baby and she works just fine! Lol.

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No steam distillation SOP available. Sorry.

Just like most other essential oil distillations, we’d get about 75% of the extraction out in the first 30min. After that, run-time is a balancing act of maximizing return and quality of the product.

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His glass holds much less than what people on here are doing

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I believe most methods using water and and not using water the preliminary end result, they all smell slightly barn yard-ish. However once you burp and cure your terps just as you do your fresh flower for about 3-4 weeks, all turns out nice and clear. Now if their yellow or brown from the beginning… you probably will never get them to smell right. Also curing and burping should happen after you have removed all water from the oil. Several low brow methods exist for this. One of these ghetto techniques is simply put the oil and whatever hydrosal (or however you spell it)that couldn’t be fully removed with Pipette in a vial or small bottle and freeze it. The terps stay liquid the water freezes and viola, you can filter off any ice that pours out with oil.

As far as procedure for “dry steam” I mean essentially have a bump trap above boiling flask and another small extension connected too that all before your biomass globe. This is all so your biomass never encounters actual water that comes thru the top of boiling flask. Your trying too keep any real water from hitting the biomass. Just real hot and fresh steam. Also once your steam starts carrying over the still head. All your quality terps I feel are over and sitting in the separator within 20-30 minutes… any long 1.5 hour runs and I’m thinking your getting less quality for ever minutes over 1/2 hr. Also I try never too use dry product only fresh or fresh/frozen. Almost every time I try dry flower it has come out tinted In color. If you have the luxury of snipping a plant at its base and putting everything you can fit into the biomass globe (I have a 10 gal. Fermenter I pump steam thru so I can fit whole plants) do it this way. Terps off a fresh plant done fast and proper steam distillation wise and you have a very crystal clear in color and smell result. Hope this helps?

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I find that after you have steamed the fresh flower or dry, stick it in a spinner and ring out all moisture you can. Then stick it in a regular over at 250f until most of the residual moisture is gone then turn it down too 200f and finish till dry. This takes around 4 hours depending on how much your putting in oven. Also you have a time advantage here cause your decarbing. You will need too decarb anyway if your going too distill end product.

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Thank you!! @Lozo

No problem I try too help anywhere I can as long as the comments stay positive and constructive I’m all in! Once it turns too a cat fight (like so often it does) I’m out! Lol Kinda like the “insert silly name here” talks about how all of this is nonsense and too just smoke flower. Lol I do understand this comment because I do enjoy flower over concentrated however it’s comments like this that are a total turn off! Now if you take your HTSFE and grind up your flower then mix together… this is my go to now a Days cause nothing beats this!

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That would seem to put you in a unique position as far as observing the “entourage effect”.

Given the current lack of clinical data, do you have any anecdotal data that lends support? Or not?!?

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Oh I’m sorry I guess everything here that I comment on is strictly opinion based. Now saying that this opinion comes from 35 years of growing, extracting, reducing, condensing, isomirising, acetating, distilling, smoking, vaping and playing with cannabis. At 52 years old I’m ready too move on from cannabis. It was good too me for so many years… but today’s mentality of price over quality has forced me too actualise my other lifetime goals. The days of making my goals around yield in kilo’s, test results and happy customers are waning to; can I hit that next bump and keep my skis on the ground or, can I find a place too watch the aurora borealis is at night without freezing my balls of. Or even, “damn baby your cute and sexy… want to go back to my place”? Oh wait that last one was the goal from a few years ago! Lol

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How do you cure them? Do you keep them at the same temps and humidity you’d keep your flower?

Thanks for sharing this.

Well assuming all hydrosal has been removed simply burp and let breath once a day for 30 minutes or so like you would a sweet jar of freshly dried Durbin. Do this over a few weeks and you will have a olfactory response identical too the flower itself. Yes at the same temp and humidity level you would when curing your last crop of fire…

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?!? Yeah, I’m asking your opinion.

Because I think you have a unique vantage point. At least one I haven’t viewed the landscape from.

Why is that a problem?

I assume you’re not running clinical trials with those terp sauce & flower concoctions. Hence “anecdotal”.

I’m in no way trying to apply that to anything else you’ve posted here.

Hence the quote.

Set that thing on fire and pass it already :slight_smile:

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Well I’m sorry I’m not real tech savvy… I think I’m understanding what your saying. All I can say is I have nothing to prove one way or another anything I’ve said? I used to post on Instagram. But since I’m changing professions I’ve deleted all those posts cause they really get me nothing. Also I have had lots of tests over the years on cannabis and cannabis products. I’ve owned a dispensary, I’ve been a commercial grower, I’ve done all the lab stuff. So it’s all just opinion based in fact. I call that anecdotal… in any event! I lit it with a acetylene/oxy torch and I’m passing the doobie on the right hand side!

Love you all… good luck in this newly forming industry…

Lo

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We’ve got a Milestone on the way. Does anybody have experience with it?

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Lucky duck!

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I have one as well.

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Any feedback on the milestone? Does it work? Volume/hr? Thank you!

What’s the price tag on one of those Milestone systems btw? I read up on this technology several months ago but only in the context of research. It’s nice to see something in production.