Alcatel rotary vane pump ok for freeze drying?

Pretty simple have some alcatel audixen pumps laying around think they pull like .03-.01 mbar Ideal range for freeze drying is .1-.16

Anyone know why I would want to spend the money on a Leybold SOGEVAC Neo D 16 Vacuum Pump vs just using one of these? Is anyone using anything that is oil-less and reliable pulling .1 mbar ?

planning on getting a harvest right scientific unit but wanted to get something that more reliably hits .1mbar than their oil less pump that comes default w/ the unit

The aidixen pulls down to 0.001 mbar or below. So with a vac controller you should be more than fine.

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Their default pump sucks balls, the Alcatel would do better for sure

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It’s fine but it won’t like water or loaded oil. E2m28 tends to work alot better especially with ejecting molecules from the oil

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Mol sieve is you friend here for avoiding getting water into the pump.

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The issues with the freeze dryer is more due to the terpenes and other volatile in the present case. Most water get’s easily caught on the -30c coil, but most volatile terps likely go through and end up in the oil. At least that what I observe in conventional use of freeze dryer for geological samples.

It thus needs to often flush the oil after extended use running the pump with the balast opened.

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Why not just put a cold trap before the pump?

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There is one into the freeze drier, supposed to retain all the vapors. One may actually need to hook up a colder trap in between the drier and the pump. Still, this needs to be an electrical trap, since freeze drying process is usually conducted for several days.

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What temperatures for a cold trap would be needed, assuming colder the better, there are more ~-50c cold traps than there are others. Do you need much colder (-100c?) to grab the terps and water out?