thats the quasi synth process. cant you read.
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I mean, if we’re gonna get REALLY specific, D8 from CBD is “semi-synthetic” sorta like LSD from LSA.
sem·i·syn·thet·ic
/ˌsemēsinˈTHetik/
adjective
CHEMISTRY
adjective: semi-synthetic
- (of a substance) made by synthesis from a naturally occurring material.
“a wide range of semisynthetic penicillins”
I’m not a lawyer, and am not commenting on legality. I am a bit of a stickler for people using words improperly.
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So lets say d8 house of cards starts collapsing…
than what?
Will all cannabinoids be under heat? Will they thry try to control more sectors of the industry?
D8 seems like a good way to have a control on more cannabinoids and or liscensing
i volunteered for a harm reduction org for a while, drugs that weren’t my scene were still my business to know
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Yes but I think it’s referenced to using synthetic compounds to make them. Synthetics as a definition doesn’t include raw oxidized or affected organic molecules
Im no chemist but I think we’re on a playing words here by multiple definition sources.
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Which is why it depends on a judges interpretation, not what any of us think or know.
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There’s definitely room for a jury to see the potential for misconception. Judge won’t care.
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Well i mean even a substance made with “total synthesis” starts with petroleum chemicals, which are organic chemicals.
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Do they still make the booty loose?
No idea lol.
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What’s your point again here??
Both you and @kingofthekush are right
Per DEA interim ruling, D8 is a synthetically derived tetrahydrocannabinol
Per the 2018 Farm Bill, D8 is a hemp derived substance.
Apples
Oranges
Just depends on how good your lawyer is at this point as well as the precedents set by ongoing suits between D8 companies and Uncle Sam
$0.02
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I agree d8 is naturally found in the plant of hemp but at levels not feasible for extraction. Therefore it becomes necessary to produce d8 though chemical synthesis and at that point it becomes a controlled substance per the DEAs final ruling further after testing 2k samples of d8 only a handful passed for d9 and he said those who passed used chromatography to separate.
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Swider explained the process in detail, stating, “Companies that are selling Delta-9 distillate and vape carts are synthetically creating Delta-8 by converting Cannabidiol (CBD) isolate into Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol, or converting into Delta-8 Tetrahydrocannabinol… So the material in the vape cart that claims its 90 percent Delta-8 Tetrahydrocannabinol was not extracted from the plant; someone in a lab created it.”
This process of synthetically creating cannabinoids is expressly forbidden by law. As per the DEA final ruling, the question of synthetically derived forms of THC is no longer a question as it explicitly addresses the issue this statement:
“The [2018 Farm Bill] does not impact the control status of synthetically derived tetrahydrocannabinols (for Controlled Substance Code Number 7370) because the statutory definition of “hemp” is limited to materials that are derived from the plant Cannabis sativa L. For synthetically derived tetrahydrocannabinols, the concentration of D9 -THC is not a determining factor in whether the material is a controlled substance. All synthetically derived tetrahydrocannabinols remain schedule I controlled substances
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Just looking out for my dowgs I smell a shit storm brewing. Most likely just for the big guys.
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Synthetic cannabinoids are defined by congress, and d8 isnt one of them
Please show me where in the interim final rule it says D8 is a Synthetically derived cannabinoid, it doesn’t say that anywhere
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Synthetic Drug Abuse Prevention Act of 2012,”[7] Cannabimimetic Agents were added to Schedule I of the CSA. The term “Cannabimimetic Agents” refers to a substance that is a cannabinoid receptor type 1 (CB1 receptor) agonist. Under this Act, scheduling was performed using binding studies and functional assays for the specific chemical structural classes listed in the law. This greatly simplified the type of scientific data that is needed to evaluate these substances for control in Schedule I. FDA has been able to evaluate 16 cannabimimetic substances for CSA control by this simplified approach. We have also applied a comparable approach to evaluating 13 new cathinones (the so-called “bath salts”) and several new CNS stimulants/hallucinogens for control relying on reduced amounts of scientific data. These are highly dangerous substances, and FDA determined that these substances, sold on the street as substitutes for other controlled substances, in addition to producing euphoria and hallucinations, were responsible for other behavioral and toxic effects that are typical of cannabinoids and CNS stimulants. Reported adverse effects included paranoia, panic reactions, confusion, insomnia, agitation, and memory loss. Reported severe toxic effects have included convulsions and coma with hyperthermia, tachycardia, diffuse bleeding, acidosis, rhabdomyolysis, and anuria.
The emergence of the synthetic cannabinoids and cathinones, as well as a number of new tryptamine derivative substances with CNS hallucinogenic properties, has increased our focus on these products in recent years.
(Here’s the part I really like)
In 2012, the first of the synthetic cannabinoids (cannabimimetic substances) and tryptamine derivatives with CNS hallucinogenic properties and new stimulants were scheduled. Since then, recognizing their dangers, we have continued to expeditiously review and recommend scheduling of additional analogs of these substances in support of the work DEA is doing to keep them off the streets.
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IV. CONCLUSION
The DEA’s Final Rules purport to regulate foodstuffs containing “natural and synthetic THC.” And so they can: in keeping with the definitions of drugs controlled under Schedule I of the CSA, the Final Rules can regulate foodstuffs containing natural THC if it is contained within marijuana, and can regulate synthetic THC of any kind.
But they cannot regulate naturally-occurring THC not contained within or derived from marijuana — i.e., non-psychoactive hemp products — because non-psychoactive hemp is not included in Schedule I.
The DEA has no authority to regulate drugs that are not scheduled, and it has not followed procedures required to schedule a substance.
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