#WhiteAshMatters
Got some flower from the dispensary yesterday and couldn’t get any white ash on my joint. Was like a charcoal stick. Very disappointed, 2/10.
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Still firm on the plants being fed proper nutrients and being healthy. Ever noticed how nearly all hemp burns like shit and they are never fed properly, or grown correctly and they all burn like shit? Similar to high end cigars. They don’t grow that tobacco like they do Phillip Morris does with P-funks. They take great care in the cultivation and, if I’m correct, an extremely long time in the drying/curing process. The ash on those burns extremely clean.
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I believe @Thetetraguy and @_joe are the most accurate thus far. It mainly has to do with the combustion temp and what’s present in the flowers. Chlorophyll degradation definitely plays a big role. Certain minerals can cause the ash to burn white, while the lack of others can help avoid burning black. Sugars play a big role as well.
So can flushing help? Depends. Can slow drying help? Absolutely. I believe there’s multiple factors at play here, and not one simple cause.
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I think all those are factors that matter. I can’t say I’ve smoked white ash bud that wasn’t properly cultivated from clone to trim. Proper nutrient intake, flush and dry appropriately. I believe that skipping on any of those steps will in turn give you that black/white ash or straight black ash all day. The team from Don Merfos exotics makes sure they always get the white ash consistency on all their batches. From what I could get from them, the growers have dialed in every step of the cultivation process. The secret could be in the nutrients. Which in my opinion every grower has their own taste of nutrient blends. If you use pesticides at all don’t even try it.
It could also be strain dependent or hell, even light dependent.
Ive smoked indoor grown on basic GH formula in rockwool cubes. Flood and drain with gavita lights.
They never flushed, used the same formula throughout the whole flowering cycle. Never had the room clean because they had 3 crop rotations in there spaced 3 weeks apart. Litterly room was never changed, formula never changed, and they grow atleast 12 different varieties that all burned white ash when smoking. They just took their time with drying. It was 2 weeks hanging at 60/60 and then a week in bins before being trimmed.
They were solid nuggets everytime, and they probably had it going the same for 5 years straight.
I think honestly its sorta an ( if, then ) sorta situation like:
If grown indoors on salts
Then maybe drying is the major factor
If grown outdoor
Then maybe its the soil nutrient content and hows its dried.
Maybe grown with salts sorta increases rhe mineral content in the flower making it easier to burn white?
I bet if u had like 100 very detailed grow logs of the same strain with diverse environmental factors you could reverse analyze them by categorizing them and finding which paths leads to white or black ash.
I think there are already competitions that do this, getting access to their grow logs would be dope
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It’s not so cut-and-dried when it comes to white ash.
It’s cut and slow dried.
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Not strain dependent
I agree, y’all notice the white ash flower also tastes great through out the smoke and black ash flower can taste great but midways starts to give that “burn” and taste starts to diminish. Might just be me.
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A lot of this lends me to lean towards the amounts of ethylene being present during combustion. One reason why properly hung dry material give a smooth meow taste with full flavor profile of the cultivar instead of the nasty green “hay smell” we tend to find in the latter.
That being said, once cut the plant will stop all flow of nutrients of course & start to either convert them into sugars (which we want) or starches (which we don’t want) depending how the relative atmosphere is & how slow you can take it for the cure will be dependent upon how well the sugars convert or don’t, ergo a better cure & product.
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Have y’all head about the 8k white ash tek from the guy on instagram?
Think he did the first smoke of the day podcast and was really…….you should watch it
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Properly fed, healthy plants produce sugars.
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Usually water content… Think about burning a log that’s been seasoned versus a log that’s was recently cut down. The “wet” log burns and smolders for a long time a turns into a pile of black shit. A seasoned log burns hotter, quicker and into white ash.
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In my opinion, the primary factor in white ash is moisture content. If the plant material is dry enough, it will burn white.
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I don’t think it’s how dry it is, it’s more of how it was dried. You can completely dry out a bud in two days but it won’t burn good.
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The flower I was complaining about earlier in this thread was 4 months from harvest, cured/stored in a sealed Grove bag with a Boost humidity pack. Don’t know how you could store it any better really, so I’m sure it’s more than just what moisture content it’s at when it’s burned.
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This was a flushing trial done a few years back if I am not mistaken. Im sure many remember it, and how much controversy it brought at the time on forums and social media platforms. Take from it what you will.
FlushingTimes_TrialReport.pdf (1.2 MB)
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How long was the dry? I don’t think a cure can make up for a slow dry.
It was bought from the dispensary, so not sure. All I know is the harvest date on the label and the company who grew it.
Az weed = dried too fast
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Cigarettes ash white. You think it’s minerals too?
Just begging the question further. Would love to understand the science.
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